Disgruntled Yahoo! employees leaked an internal memo from human resources in which CEO Marissa Mayer bans telecommuting, saying "speed and quality are often sacrificed when we work from home." NBC's Mara Schiavocampo reports.
Updated 12:00 p.m. ET - Silicon Valley firms are known for cushy perks: free food, bringing your dog to work and so on. But starting in June, Yahoo employees will lose the benefit of working from home. According to an internal memo leaked on Friday to The Wall Street Journal's AllThingsD.com by numerous disgruntled Yahoo employees, the new policy calls for workers “physically being together.”
“We need to be working side-by-side. That is why it is critical that we are all present in our offices... Speed and quality are often sacrificed when we work from home,” reads the memo from Jacqueline Reses, a private equity veteran brought on board by Mayer in September to be the company’s HR boss.
“Hiring, managing and incentivizing talent will be of key importance,” Reses said in the press release announcing her hire.
Although Yahoo beat Wall Street expectations and reported an increase in revenue last month, this recent good news follows a long stretch of poor performance and management turmoil. Some have speculated that Yahoo’s no-telecommuting policy could be a defensive move, a way to lower the embattled tech giant’s headcount without undertaking formal layoffs.
Shortly after CEO Marissa Mayer took the helm in July, she implemented changes like free lunch, free phones and other perks reminiscent of her former employer, Google. Earlier this month, a Business Insider list of top U.S. employers ranked Yahoo eighth, behind second-place Google but ahead of Microsoft, which came in 14th.
This new policy might make holding onto that spot harder. It drew a scathing response on Twitter and blog comment threads, with many users saying that keeping a stable of unproductive workers is a management failure, and that the policy would prompt a brain drain. (A handful of smaller tech companies used the news as a chance to recruit, inviting frustrated Yahoo! employees to come work — on a flexible schedule — for them instead.)
Others defended Mayer, saying an all-hands-on-deck approach was the only way to keep the company's new momentum going.
In her short stint at Yahoo, this isn’t the first time Mayer’s work-life balance choices have been criticized. After giving birth to her first child last fall, Mayer planned to be back at work in only a week or two.
Carley Roney, co-founder of the parent company for TheBump.com, told TODAY that Yahoo!’s policy change could convey an “anti-parent” sentiment. Yahoo did not respond to the question of whether new mom Mayer sometimes works from home. "We don't comment on rumors or internal matters," a company spokeswoman said via email.
The Yahoo memo made it clear that workers shouldn’t expect a lot of wiggle room or exceptions. “For the rest of us who occasionally have to stay home for the cable guy, please use your best judgment in the spirit of collaboration,” Reses said.
Studies that have tried to determine whether working from home helps or hurts productivity have drawn mixed conclusions. A study in June by Wakefield Research found that 43 percent of people said they watched TV while “working” from home, and roughly a quarter each admitted to taking a nap or knocking back a drink on the clock.
But a paper published just last week out of Stanford University said performance increased 13 percent when employees of a Chinese travel agency were allowed to work from home on a trial basis. “[A]bout 9 percent was from working more minutes per shift (fewer breaks and sick-days) and 4 percent from more calls per minute (attributed to a quieter working environment),” researchers wrote. When the company ended the trial and extended the work-from-home option to the rest of its people, performance rose 22 percent.
What's more, there is a correlation between working from home and higher pay. Census Bureau data released last year found that part-time telecommuters earned a median $22,800 more than those who physically go to work every day.
A Bureau of Labor Statistics report published in June found that telework is making inroads into the American labor market, albeit slowly. About a quarter of survey respondents said they worked from home at least some of the time.
“Evidence also reveals that an increasing number of jobs in the American economy could be performed at home if employers were willing to allow employees to do so,” researchers wrote. Technology-related jobs were mentioned as top prospects for telework. Hurdles, when they existed, tended to stem from management reluctance rather than technological limitations.
Based on the BLS’s findings, though, Mayer’s new edict could be a blessing in disguise for Yahoo workers. Working from home “is not unequivocally helpful in reducing work-family conflicts,” the report said. “Instead, telecommuting appears to have become instrumental in the general expansion of work hours... and/or the ability of employers to increase or intensify work demands among their salaried employees.”
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Sounds to me like they are being whiny little b*tches. Go to work!
Would be nice if you knew what you were talking about before you embarrassed yourself in front of the world.
I am surprised the "new" YAHOO CEO would be so backward thinking in her ideas of how to move the company forward.
THIS IS JUST WRONG and BAD BUSINESS!
My husband and I both telecommute ( I work a small part-time silly job and he works for a very large software company)
We don't deal with rising gas prices, clothing budget, lunches and dinners out. If one of our five kids is sick they simply stay in bed and yell ( or text) that they need help; there is no need to take a PTO day. We don't even take sick days for ourselves now, There are no chatty fellow employees--we can just focus on work. If we need to talk to someone we simply video them in.
I think it is funny when my husband videos someone in, he wears a polo shirt but often has shorts on and no shoes. No one is the wiser.
I love telecommuting it has changed our whole lives. We eat dinner together as a family for the first time in 10 years!!! We never miss any of our kids daytime school performances. We are happier than we have ever been. It is amazing and thank God his software company is so supportive. I even go to the Christmas parties and always tell his boss how grateful I am.
The only downside is you really need separate office space in your home with a locking door ( its a tax write off though) But other than that we are more productive and happier than we have ever been as a family.
Telecommuting makes people more productive, happy and actually loyal to their company. Loyalty is a big problem in the tech sector
I tried telecommuting with some of my employees. It didn't work. It just allowed them time to goof off.
Then Mark you need to manage your employees better. They need strict deadlines for each piece of whatever project they are working on.
Was yahoo just bought by an oil company subsidiary? he he.
It is a lot harder to manage and supervise people working from home. Not that it can't be done, but it is a much bigger hustle for the managers.
Some people thrive when they telecommute and others go adrift, so it's definitely not for everyone. When I'm in the office I see a lot of socializing, there are noisy and smelly distractions, and when the drive in was bad it puts people in a bad mood and they spend hours telling others about it. I get a whole lot more done from home and I'm more productive because I can control my environment.
Wrong. It's the HR people who are being bit<hes. "Human Resources" is a misnomer; it should be "Do Nothing But F the Real Workers."
This is a "see Board, we're doing something maneuver" to buy the new CEO time while she fails to turn Yahoo around. It's a save her job and perks maneuver.
Max: then it's the managers who need to put more time in, if they cannot manage telecommuters. Once or twice weekly in office meetings to discuss meeting deadlines is all it should take. And appropriate discussions if an employee fails to meet deadlines and fails to ask for appropriate help.
IF you spend your time on a computer, the only thing that happens during commuting is wasting time and FUEL. The computer doesn't care where it is
I can see both sides of this issue. While I think this move by Yahoo is more of a control issue, it will always come down to the type of personality of the worker. Some workers will do more work sitting at home in their pajamas all day, but when in the office are too distracted by others to get anything done. Then there are workers who will really do nothing at home believing that what the company doesn't know won't hurt them when in reality it does. And in the corporate environment it seems that all management wants to do is have meetings, but really accomplishes nothing by doing so.
Workers can be ineffective in both atmospheres. It comes down to finding the right minded individuals, and has very little to do with control.
John, effective companies give workers the choice to come in or not. Effective workers choose the milieu where they are most effective. Effective managers manage this situation.
plain and simple: if a positon allows goofing off, they will goof off. The position needs to be productive in any settings.... for example: if the person is a sales person in a region, then they need monthly targets. You either meet, beat, or fall short of expectations.
if the position is to create TPS reports (you like that?) then yes, you will get people dozing on the job. common sense peeps
rachel-3673200
I think that is kind of what I said, but more than that I was stating that there are simply some crappy employees and that is where productivity lies. Get rid of the crappy ones and then it doesn't matter where they do their work. The option of a company to say come in to work means that they really don't believe that some are being productive and hope that they quit instead of having to fire them.
My quality of work is much better by telecommuting than by actually working in the office. I'm an introvert and I get stressed out by being around people. When I'm at home working, I can get so much work done because I'm not distracted and stressed out by all those around me.
Maybe you should learn about the subject and understand it before saying we're all "whiny little b*tches."
I just think it depends on the position. Many jobs only need a computer and very little interaction with other people. Let them work from home and get a smaller office, which allows the employees flexibility but also saves the company money. But I do think there are some jobs that really need people to come together and work together in person; creative positions, management, executive.
My biggest problem with telecommuting is when to STOP working! There are no visual queues one might expect in the office. But I can focus in on a code or programming issue and work it through until it is resolved, or handed off to the appropriate Problem Owner. Often, 5:00pm, turns to 6:00pm, turns to 9:00pm (darn it, forgot dinner) and next thing I know, the house is silent, it's 11:00pm and I've been working for 15 hours. My wife think's I'm out of my MIND, but I love the work. Going into the office has too many distractions.
I think more and more companies should allow their workers the option to telecommute - so long as they remain productive and their work does not suffer.
I think when people say that an employee can go home and just goof off all day, I think...but are they getting all of their work done?
If the answer is yes, what do you think they were doing in the office all day? Probably surfing the net.
If the answer is no, well then...it's not because they are working from home thats the issue, its that they aren't doing their work thats the issue.
Fire them. You should be able to trust a grown up to go home and do their job just as well as they would from the office...and if you cant, you dont need that worker.
KALLIE - tell me more about this write off stuff?
My spouse works from home, and we had to set up an office for her so that she could focus on her work...id be curious to know what write off's she is eligible for.
Thanks!
I would have to agree with Rachel that it's more of a Board Room move than anything else. Also, it surely is a way to cause attrition in the ranks.
As a Yahoo user, I see the change of their home page to "facebookish" look and feel as being the more urgent failure on her part. When you can't come up with a NEW vision on your own, you are destined to fail. Facebook will go the way of Myspace, it's just a matter of time and a NEW product getting the attention of users.
Tim in Chi-town
Here is how I read what you say here: "I don't have normal social skills, so please catter to my @!$%#ed up personality".
That's a whiney bitch if I ever heard of one.
I'm a firm believer in telecommuting, I did it for 7 years and was able to get in more hours at work AND get things done around the house.
It's not for everyone. However I've met more managers who couldn't deal with it than workers. Some managers think that the only way work gets done is to perform bed checks to make sure everyone is at their desk at a certain time and think work only occurs when they are breathing down their necks. Other bad managers can't express what they want done unless they are waving their arms in front of the worker and pointing vaguely at what they want done.
But I've also seen workers that can't hold their attention to the screen when they could be puttering in the garden or in the garage.
You have to look at the worker and the work to determine if they can handle telecommuting.
For myself, after 10 years of 2+ hour daily commutes to and from work, nothing beats the 30 second commute to the basement computer room. Instead of tanking up 2 1/2 times a week and $50/month in tolls, I gassed up the car once a month whether it needed it or not. I could work as long as I wanted and frequently pulled overnighters so I'd have something to show in the mornings. Not to mention the loss of weight, instead of getting something to eat at break time, lunch, eating again at the next break time, and then eating at home, I just had two meals a day and lost 40 pounds just from the change in lifestyle.
I can't believe a person would actually use, in writing "incentivising talent" as part of their job description in a press release about them self.
You want to talk about being a self-important air head, "there's you sign."
The author of the article may be correct, this may be Yahoo's way of getting rid of people without having to announce a layoff.
That is a goofy statement Rachael. 1st, HR is like any other department, we institute what upper management wants. 2nd, most of us in HR are pro-telecommuting because we realize that for many, though not all, it is a perk that increases productivity as well as job satisfaction. I get major arguments from managers who either don't know how to manage out of office staff or who are suffering from trust issues. Usually both. I will say however, that 100% telecommuting is not the best answer for most people. Employees generally need at least some interaction with their co-workers to remain highly engaged and be effective. I often suggest that managers schedule in-office as well as out-of office days for their staff to keep the team connected and functioning well. That seems to work the best for everyone.
This position summarizes any debate. On a case by case basis company management needs to decide where its employees are most effective. If Yahoo feels that is in the office then so be it.
Lee-3485824:
You've never managed people it seems, at least not successfully.
There are 5 personality types ranging from introvert (think accountant, programmer) to extrovert (think sales, HR). A good manager will recognize this and try to place ppl into positions where they can thrive. Put an accountant into a room of hyper active sales types and nothing will get done but lock her into a small room by herself then watch her crank out the work.
To take what you said a step further, a lousy manager will instead say "I have what I consider to be normal social skills, so please STFU and do as I say, no questions asked you whiny b*****s". And then can't understand why you are loathed by your employees.
It seems that short selling Yahoo stock could be a good investment, since they will not do well short term or maybe even long term under this new management.
Honestly - it's just plain shocking that an Internet company would poo poo telecommuting - it makes no good sense. But then again, should we expect anything else coming from a CEO who promotes pushing out a baby and returning to work within a week or two? What kind of message did that send?
I wonder how many have considered the probability that if Yahoo supplied their employees with their portable computers that they do have spyware and key loggers on them, which is within their rights. And this decision is a result of the lack of work being done.
STILL a bunch of self-absorbed whiny-a$$ b*tches. If your boss says they need you AT work to run the business more effectively, you GO TO work. According to the article you already get a damn FREE LUNCH EVERY DAY!!!! You have well-regarded health plans, above-average wages in this country, and sit in front of a computer all day tapping keys. If you dare to complain that now you have to put on clothes and leave your house to actually go to work, you are severely arrogant, selfish, and have a dramatically overhyped sense of self-worth. It's all about YOU isn't it? If you can't handle working in the office, quit and go get a real job.
I hate working in an office. It's like being in prison. The politics of the white collar worker are so inane and irritating. I would much rather, and still do today, telecommute and get my work done without all of the distractions an office has to offer. No thanks. And the Yahoo CEO has to have her reasons to revoke telecommuting (unless you are sick or there is an emergency.) I suspect workers are screwing off and unfortunately took the whole company perk down with them. There will be a lot of resentment and anger these employees are bringing back to the office with them. That is always productive, right? Right.............uh huh.
Having done both in office and telecommute jobs as an employee and manager I can tell you that the modern cubical/partition office layout is not conducive to those hallway discussions. First, they are more distracting because the sound carries which is distracting to productive work. Second, The hallway discussions always occur outside the cubes where multiple people that are not involved with the discussion and I have often had to chase them off after they had interrupted my teams efforts. All this ding dong is doing is trying to reduce her staff size by turning her work place hostile. The down side to her effort is that the first ones to leave are always the ones you want to keep the most. These are the ones who have the highest skill level and will have the least problems finding a new job at the competition. The ones that will stay are the ones that are the least productive and the ones that need to go the most.
As you say, office cubicle layouts are hardly conducive to idea exchange. I have always considered anti-telecommute types as "fearless empire builders"whose restrictive notions border on being Luddite. That a company that harbors pretentions of becoming a serious social media player fails/fears to foster such an environment within the company speaks volumes about its future.
In the 21st century, it's not necessary for workers who have the right tools to work side-by-side in order to share ideas. Email, instant messaging and online discussion forums -- not to mention the good ol' fashioned telephone -- provide those functions quite nicely. If anything, as some commenters have mentioned here, working from home can make one more productive. Sure, there are times when there is no substitute for face-to-face meetings, but those are often outweighed by the need to go off by one's self to actually get work done.
Unfortunately -- and as some of the comments here demonstrate -- there's a perception that working from home is analogous to "goofing off," that if you're at home you can't be possibly doing "real" work, that you must be just sitting around in your PJ's watching soaps. That perception may be part of what's driving Yahoo's move here. But people can goof off just as easily in the office, unless their every move is being watched (and that's hardly the kind of environment that fosters teamwork and creativity). A well-run organization that measures productivity goals objectively can distinguish good workers from the slackers, whether they work in the office or at home.
Also, there may be a concern about fairness. I've been in situations where telecommuting privileges were granted at managers' discretion... meaning some folks got to work at home all the time when others were never allowed to. Naturally, that leads to friction -- and often to a decision by senior management to take the easiest solution and prevent telecommuting altogether.
Finally, if this is a move to thin the herd, it's a stupid one. The first ones out the door are going to be your superstars, as they're the ones with the most employment options, the most ambition, and the most to offer the competition.
In the 21st century, it is absolutely necessary for workers to be in the right environment that suits their personality. Too many low performers think they should have the right to telecommute because they see high performers being productive with it. This places a huge amount of overhead on a manager in making sure that those low performers are actually performing at all.
As far as thinning the herd--a superstar who cares about the company isn't going to bitch and moan about where they work from. A superstar who only cares about themselves will--and that's part of the herd you need to thin. When everyone works to their potential, companies make money. When people--even superstars--are "me first" it becomes a drain all over the place.
Perhaps I should have been more clear on my last point. Few employees -- superstars or otherwise -- are likely to leave a company over a single policy change. But if they perceive that change as a pretext for something more troubling, such as a staff reduction, they're going to start polishing their resumes. They're not going to wait around to get laid off, especially if they have options.
@Ransom
What "superstars" do you know that will give their all for the company??? Will the company not let them walk? Unless they are "under contract" the company today cares little for anything but the bottom line. This is 2013, not 1950.
I would love to have the respect and loyalty from my employer that my father had. He never had to look over his shoulder for a potential layoff because stock holder profits weren't high enough. If I could find an employer that displayed that they valued me, I would stay there forever. The employers showed disloyalty first and now economically the employee has to watch their back and be ready to move on in a heartbeat. It is a sad way to live.
I telecommuted for several years and loved it. When I changed jobs, it was the total opposite. They want you in the office, period and working from home is only for people either on vacation, or home sick, or home with sick kids. Yes, we have sickos who log in to work on their vacation days.
I don't work half as hard or get half as much done in the office as I would from working from home. There's just no comparison, but my lame-brained employer isn't too bright and the management team here is seriously lacking in management skills.
When working from home, I logged in very early and got on top of any issues right away. I didn't have to waste time shaving, showering, getting dressed, and commuting, so I could spend my most productive time getting things done. Being able to run a load of laundry or whatever let me catch up on home chores with zero impact to work. Not being interrupted, engaging in office chatter or pranks, or general BS, I knocked out most pieces of work in a fraction of the time. Lunch was time for a workout and a shower and then eat while back at the desk. If it was a slow day, I found plenty of other home things to do, and when it was busy I could work overtime without having to deal with a commute and inconveniencing others at home by having to work late.
Now, most days, I don't do much of anything other than look busy. As I said, the place is run by idiots. That's all they really want. If we look busy, they think we're doing a great job. The day drags on and I'm way behind on things at home due to all the extra hours added to the work day. It's just a paycheck and I hate it, but have to put up with it until something better comes up.
Any collaborations I've ever heard in the office is when a group is working on a solution. They go into a conference room to do that. I think they have way too many of those, because you have to stop what you are doing to go into the room, just to listen to two guys who re vying for alpha dog status. They will argue, trying to get the other to adopt their method of getting something done. Everyone else is just spectators.
The other collaboration is when there is a problem. Except with that one, a bunch of people crowd into someones cubical, where they annoy all those around them with their loud talking.
When I worked for IBM, we mostly work from home. They have all sorts of collaboration tools for chatting, conference calls, whiteboard software, so everyone can participate in discussions or training sessions. You aren't going to have the best people for a particular project, all working out of the same office.
It's easy to see who is participating remotely, because there is a record of what people do. We are all assigned projects, so if they are getting completed on schedule, what's the issue? I learn something with every collaboration.
There are times that you need to be side by side but I think telecommuting does increase productivity. A company could creatively lay out an office so that half of their employees are telecommuting in a rotation. They could save a lot of money on renting or purchasing space and the utility costs for that space. It's also better for the environment when people drive less.
My job requires us to be in the office but we have laptops for those situations where we need to work a little extra in the evening or on the weekend. People started abusing this immediately...screwing around all day and then logging in from home to complete their work on overtime. Now we aren't allowed to work at home at all.
The really unfortunate part of this is that we have 250 employees and only 200 parking spaces at our facility. We are located in a residential suburb that does not participate in public transportation and there is no parking available other than our lot. We really need an option like telecommuting on certain days available since there is nowhere to park when you get to work.
I don't believe you are more productive from home. I have worked from home and from and office. When you have children at home, distractions are great. Little children need attention. Also, working at an office I felt more productive and stimulated by an office environment. There were other people that I watched who worked from home and they seemed to spend the largest part of the day just doing personal business. So, for me, and I raised to children alone through college, I think the work environment is more productive.
IT folks work from home because we have the tools to do so (on-demand video conferencing, etc) and we usually interact with co-workers all over the world anyway. The flipside is that we also don't work 9-5 since those same tools make us essentially available 24/7.
While this policy makes sense for certain teams - people doing production support and such won't add any value by going in and sitting next to each other. My hope is for those that go into the office, they leave any and all work there when the leave for the day.
And of course the best and brightest they have will start looking for a new gig that allows them to have that flexible work arrangement they are used to.
That's exactly it. In IT we're expected to be available 24/7 and if I need to take care of something on a Sunday night I'm not going to drive into the office to do it. So if they take that away people are either going to leave, service is going to go down the tubes or you'll have some tired and unhappy workers.
I've been on both sides of this. I've seen where being physically together really does get things done faster, better collaboration, better product. But I think that was function of having the right people, a clear and concise schedule, with clear goals...
In my current position I have the ability to work from home if need be. I find it good as I can still contribute while I'm at home sick or stuck due to weather.
I think it depends on the situation whether its beneficial or not...
This, a thousand times this. It doesn't matter where people work if they are working ineffectively due to poor planning and ill-defined goals.
And sometime the people telecommuting are ill-defining the goals, with ill-definition of goals for their position.
I could seriously go on about how if the two people who telecommute for the executive management team of our department were to fall off the face of the earth, no one would notice.
baaaaaaah, reminds me of something...
I guess upper management was nostalgic for 1996. You know, when Yahoo! was actually popular.
Ya-who? I thought Google owned the internet nowadays?
Been there, done that... and love tele-working. I could go straight from bed to work with a hot cup of coffee, take breaks as needed, conference with co-workers when needed, and felt no obligation to, but often would, work some overtime, because I didn't feel any pressure to "call it a day". Very little clock-watching.
breaks as needed? I think that is the concern..you may have been a great employee working from home but I'm willing to bet most that do it are lazy and are not as productive..possibly only "working" 5 true hours out of the day while napping, smoking, watching tv etc the rest..not giving it what they would give it if at the office..people are lazy these days..let em work from home and you're asking for it
If people are lazy, they're going to be lazy anywhere. I've worked from home for 7 years. I'm self employed. But if I were doing the same thing as an employee, I would be evaluated by what I produce, and the quality of that work. I get a lot more done at home than I ever did in an office. The office has a lot of distractions and pointless meetings. As long as I meet all my deadlines, and produce top quality work, it shouldn't matter how many breaks I take or how many actual hours I work. I do what needs to be done - and often much more. I only watch TV when I take a lunch break, which is usually about 15 minutes. If I were in an office and was given an hour for lunch, I'd probably take the whole hour. I'm far more productive and efficient working from home.
Except for the fact that I'm posting on this vine right now instead of writing the radio commercial I'm supposed to be writing! Signing off!
I agree with WinWin4All; it doesn't matter where you are--if you're not focused, you're not going to produce. I work from home FT & I can tell you that my output is so much greater than when I worked in the office with 40 people & had non-stop distractions from almost every co-worker on a daily basis. I know my deadlines, I know what's required, and I deliver. If I didn't, I would not still be employed. It doesn't matter to my boss if I do the work at 3 am or 3 pm, as long as it's in-hand when it is supposed to be & that the caliber of work is up to par.
Since going FT as a remote employee about 18 months ago, I have had two significant promotions & make 40% more than when I worked in the office. My stress level is much lower, I don't have to worry about a commute, and I feel trusted & empowered by my employer. That alone drives me to work even harder. Some days, I work 10-12 hours straight without taking time to stop & eat more than a granola bar; other days, it's 5-6 hours of work and some time to do laundry, read the news (like now, for instance), etc. Work fluctuates in the office just as much; it's just that on the days when there's not as much to do at that given moment, you have employees creating distractions for other employees & trying to hide internet usage in an attempt to look busy. How is that a better move than hiring the right talent who can work remotely & then managing them correctly?!
Sheila, most people only work 4 to 5 hours out of an eight hour work day anyway. Between meetings, interruptions and workplace chatter, to get any real work done, people have to work late or from home later anyway when the distractions have gone away. Sure, they're busy all day, but most of that is wasted misdirected energy just trying to look more busy than the others most of the time.
Set goals and rate people on meeting those goals and deadlines and why do you care how it gets done? Or, watch them like hawks and make them into clock watchers and they will undermine you with their contempt when they get a chance.
Employees may be able to goof off for a short time when they telecommute but eventually (and it's a short eventually) they have to deliver on whatever it is they're doing. Sure you can take a nap but the work doesn't disappear if you take a nap so you'll need to work 'till 6 or 10 or whatever it takes because you're still expected to deliver.
Sheila, are you speaking from your personal experience? I don't think people in IT are lazy. They are actually competitive and go-getters.
Depends on the job really. If you work on a team that constantly has to talk to each other, being in the same physical area can really help.
If your job has you mostly working by yourself and only occasionally talking to someone else you can have a much more quite and comfortable working environment from home.
However, working from home also requires strong Ethics to not have the TV on, to play a quick game, to talk with friends... the any number of distractions that can crop up with no chance of a boss showing up to catch you. Ethics are something that really is in short supply these days it seems so I can see why a company would be worried.
I think if you work for the tech sector there are less distractions at home. Also, since a lot of the work is project work with deadlines there is little time to goof around. People that do goof around don't last long.
I am able to telecommute one day a week and I love it. My work is fairly independent and even when I am in the office, I still mostly communicate through email. And that's mostly to keep a paper trail. Not everyone has the option to telecommute and I sometimes think people don't believe I'm actually working: close to the end of the day I'll get some kind of b.s. email that requires my response, which of course is within the same minute as receiving it. I used to have more telecommuting days but because other people proved themselves incapable of managing it, the rest of us were penalized. It's about managing perception: make sure you're always available during your work hours and for goodness sake, get the work done that you're supposed to. If you stay on top of it, you actually can cut your work day down but everyone thinks you're always working. It's not that hard.
Yeah. Fewer distractions like your dog barking, the UPS man at the door, or your baby crying it's ass off when I'm on a conference call with you.
Lee I know you are trying to be difficult but actually you are right. We don't have a baby but we do have a dog that loves to bark at little old ladies walking by which was an issue. However, like everything else in the workplace you find a solution. We finally found when we need to talk to someone we have to put the dog in her den and cover it with a blanket. My point is nothings is perfect but there are solutions! I really think the best solution is for people to be more productive by working from their home office.
It's going to be a bitch actually having to work for a paycheck...
A physical presence doesn't ensure people do work. Recently there was a case of a Verizon worker who was outsourcing his work to some guy in China for a fifth of his paycheck while he goofed off all day.
And I've certainly been in factories where the operator has been known to nod off for a minute or 30.
Go to any government job site where people come in to work--look for example at the DMV or street-repair. Are all the people working hard? Hmmm?
What a joke. Real workers work. Most telecommuting high-tech workers LOVE their work.
rachel, I wonder where you live? The last time I went to my DMV there was a 2 hour wait. Customers were lined up out the door, and all the clerks were busy. Just what is a "real" worker"? -to you. No doubt cops, teachers or firemen do not qualify, right? They just put up with stuff most folks cant even comprehend. No doubt tho, you are a real worker, hmmm
I haven't gone to the DMV in years. In my state they have a website where you can do just about everything online. On the years I need an emissions test I take the car to the testing facility. The results of the test, payment etc is just submitted through my DMV account. By the time I get home the registration stickers are on their way.
I'm sure behind the official statement they have slackers taking advantage of the situation. They most likely do not have enough proof to get rid of the bad apples so they kill the program for all.
Been too many times I have been on calls with people who were working from home and you can hear sounds in the background that show they are out shopping. Then you have the parents that think they can save money on daycare...ya sure you can really do your job and safely watch a 2 yr old.
She is a corporate tool trying to protect her nest....in a few years they will have an average workforce of drones looking at the clock...like the rest of you
An interesting comment. You state your opinion with a desire to enlighten people and change the way they think and end it with an insult. Somehow, I don't think that works.
rick -
What did you think a corporate worker was...a ballerina???
In a few years she'll be at a different company with her golden parachute trailing behind her and a Yahoo! much worse off than it was. That's how being a CEO works.
that's a THEORY X CEO - the brainless ones who think that the only way to PROVE that they have productive workers is to micromanage them. Personal interaction is NOT a requirement - in fact, I know of a blind guy who is JUST as valuable in what he does AT HOME with his sophisticated reading equipment than he could be in an office and he doesn't need to waste the TIME commuting.
Wake up you dinosaurs - tech jobs don't require continuous office presence
I knew her when we were both undergrads at Stanford, and she was a raging rhymes-with-witch back then. Sounds like she hasn't changed a bit in 15 years...
Dilbert!!!
I work from home a couple of days a week. And I found that when I work from home I usually work though my lunch since I eat at my computer and dont take breaks. I also end up working a little longer since I know that I dont have the commute home, or just lose track of time.
When at work I always take my lunch and often start talking to co-workers when they stop by my cube.
Exactly. Plus, I actually find it easier to focus at home...the office can be noisy and it's definitely not as comfortable as being home.
Ditto. Add in the trips to the coffee machine, passing co-workers in the halls...
I've had the same experience as you DaveG. I found myself much more productive working at home.
Marrisa Mater's inability to be productive in the home work environment seems to mean that all of her employees have the same problem.
Clueless management will rescue Yahoo, no doubt. Start with making sure everyone is manning the cubicles. Very important.
And the next step is to get rid of 20% of the work force that is retired in place...
Maybe her next move will be to make sure everyone is in their cubicles by 9am. I worked at a company where the CEO implemented a policy that everyone had to be at work at 9am. Thankfully, the company was aquired and he was out the door.
Telecommuting is the wave of the future. America should be rushing wholesale to embrace it. The office building is becoming obsolete. We would have serious concrete results now in terms of dependency on foreign oil, road congestion and wear, time loss due to commuting and sickness etc if the govt would simply make a law that exempts employers from paying workman's compensation on any employee that work 30+ hr/wk from home. That simple change would have profound effects. Companies would be able to lower wages (no need for gas/lunch/etc), reduce office space, and have a happier more productive workforce. There are many tools now that are available to monitor worker's productivity, and they could even make a policy of turning on those laptop cameras to check in occassionally and video conference. This is all completely doable right now! Apparently we are too foolish to embrace it.
I agree.
Also, as a New Yorker, we have the problem, common in many cities, where workers have to move further and further away from the job. NYC has been taken over by high-paid workers, driving up the costs of apartments. So, Manhattan is ng for regular folks, even making $100K+. Then, it spread to Brooklyn, as close to Manh as possible (heck, even Miranda on Sex and the City had to do this-couldn't afford decent place in Manh). So, the commutes get longer because of congestion and from people moving further and further away.
So, how productive is someone who has a long (my case when i moved to suburbs) 3.5 hour r/t commute (plus the hour+ to shower, get dressed nice, and at night, take it off, hang up the suit, iron tomorrow's clothes, etc.)? Finally, the Silicon Valley software firm that took over (we designed and tested investment software on Wall St) enacted the telecommute option for every day.
Even without the stock options, it was a major "raise"-no money spent on trains (at least $5K a year), dry cleaning, lunches, a.m. take-out coffee, all gone. The company was able to get a lovely office, much smaller, and even had windows that opened (sick building syndrome very common).
Then, since many of us were used to getting up so early, we just started working then, in sweats. We got to the gym properly, when it was not packed and we were exhausted, again, healthy. No worry about kids and pets at home, healthy food (and we weren't stressed and eating crap as on the job)...
Had they done just the opposite, as Yahoo did, we would have run for the hills.
That's
what happens when the company is desperate to survive, they think things like
this would fix them, and the reasoning like that is what destroys this company.
By
the way, I’m proud to say that I’m resigning today from my job (not Yahoo, even
worst)!
Congrats. I assume it is for something better for you and your situation.
Nice to hear when people can be choosier and not be bound by tin handcuffs. The expression is "golden handcuffs" but in this economy, many people are just happy to have health ins and some money coming in, as miserable as the job is.
I agree. This is more of a sign of micromanaging and top down management when both of those are not what a technology company needs to survive these days. Putting a manufacturing model on information technology is what almost killed some of the bigger companies until they changed their tactics. Yahoo's biggest problem isn't people working from home. It's how to get more cooperative deals with other much bigger companies to revive the dead brand which could attract advertisers. Does anyone seriously see Yahoo as a competitor to Google, Microsoft, Sony, the network/cable/music conglomerates, or even the mobile phone companies? They couldn't raise enough capital to successfully put a dent in any of them even if they came up with some superior ideas. They could license or sell the ideas to them, but I don't see them being able to successfully compete with them for market share.
One has to wonder if this is just a ploy to shake up the stock through both a big headcount reduction (eliminating many of the telecommuters) and appealing to the old fashioned investors who feel like workers need to put in 12+ hour days caged like animals and work has to be painful for all workers to squeeze maximum profits. Her moves might boost Yahoo's stock price in the short term for her to exercise and sell some stock options, and will probably hurt them as a company long term, but she'll be long gone out on a golden parachute by then.
This is an interesting blog from stack overflow on why they allow remote workers. I agree with everything in it. I can only speak to IT jobs (I'm a software developer), but my job can be done just as effectively from home. Most of the people I work with are in IT offices in other cities anyway.
http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2013/02/why-we-still-believe-in-working-remotely/
I've been working from home for about 5 years. Going to the office would drain about $5000 extra in auto gas and maintenance, not to mention spending at least 2 hours on the road each day and lacking enough sleep. It wouldn't even see anyone I work with going to the ofice because I'm in Connecticut, my boss in Florida, and the people I work with most of the time are in Boston and North Carolina so I would be on the phone for meetings anyway. In the end, telecommuting is a great perk for IT workers and I'm pretty sure Yahoo is taking it away to get rid of employees without having to actually fire them.
I have my own business and work out of my home office. Guess what? I actually WORK! The great thing is that I can work early, late, on weekends...whenever I need to get the job done. And I don't have to go anywhere.
I think this CEO believes everyone is a people-person, everyone is extroverted. Untrue. Some people like working alone b/c it suits their personality. Not everyone needs to have unnecessary meetings with everyone to get things done. Not all jobs need collaboration (i.e. customer service). What about cutting back on pollution by not having as many people commuting?
It is very easy to figure out who is working effectively from home and who is not. Look at work product. Cut those who are taking advantage and let the rest do their jobs. A big step backward, Yahoo. For an internet company, you sure don't know what the future of work is all about.
This is the harbinger of doom for Yahoo, really . . .
Really! :-o
If you think you can trust a corporate worker to do their job unsupervised, then you've never had anyone work for you...getting Americans to actually work is like herding cats...
Not sure where you work - but in the top tier IT corperations I've worked in - the high profile/gotta be done right projects are given to US teams while the paint by numbers/don't screw it up too bad projects are give to the global delivery centers in Argentina, Spain, India, China, Manila, etc.
The biggest difference is that the US workers have a can do/must do attitude while many of our global counterparts don't have that same drive, determination, and sense of urgency.
And you obviously don't work in IT or you would know practically everything we do has a defined project plan, milestones, specific deliverables, etc. with continually reported metrics attached. Anyone not getting their work done will show up red on scorecards for the world to see and then gets the chance to explain the variance on a widely attended conference call either daily or weekly. Its not like my manager needs to walk around and look at our screens to know if we are getting our work done.
dee you must be from Texas where the brains are in short supply (just look at their governor)
fork, you obviously don't know what a high-tech center like Austin is like. Real, legal, non-welfare Texans work hard.
Your house must be a realy mess Dee. tisk tisk a housewife with an attitude like that. I bet your husband has to cook his own dinner when he gets home from work because you've been busy blogging nonsense all day long.
rachel, Are you from texas? That explains everything..
Oh my goodness I will resist the desire to talk about who "real" Texans are, and for some reason I suspect a certain person commenting on it- AINT IT.
Yeah. Lots of levels of management to monitor and direct the output of the workers and lots of overhead costs to absorb in offices and infrastructure. That's worked out really well lately, hasn't it? Most successful companies dropped that model long ago. Yahoo may be able to buck that trend, but I doubt it. They're going to be significantly raising their costs on a brand that most people already view as a dinosaur. What does Yahoo currently offer or hope to offer that several other companies don't already do better? Without a clear answer to that, who is going to move to or invest in their brand instead of the competition?