Macy's urged to 'dump Trump' from ads -- or else

A new Macy's ad mixes in footage from "Miracle on 34th Street" with cameos from several of the faces behind Macy's celebrity brands - including the controversial Donald Trump.

 

Snip snip snip. What's that sound? The sound of over 558,000 scissors at the ready.

If Macy's doesn't cut its ties to Donald Trump, over half-a-million signers of an online petition will be urged to cut up their Macy's store credit card, the creator of the petition, Angelo Carusone, told TODAY this morning.

Carusone, 30, said he started the petition on October 24th because he was a fan of the retailer and Trump's brand "doesn't reflect the magic of Macy's." He said Trump's brand was built on "consequence-free bullying," noting the birtherism controversy, and Trump's history of misogynistic comments.

After the petition started, things kicked up a notch when Trump tweeted calls for "revolution," following President Obama's re-election, and Macy's released a new ad featuring Trump. The new Macy's ad mixed in footage from "Miracle on 34th Street" with cameos from several of the faces behind Macy's celebrity brands. There's Justin Bieber, Martha Stewart, Taylor Swift, and then there's Donald Trump, skeptical that the old man in the stocking cap and suit is really Santa and tugging on his beard. Macy's sells a line of Trump-branded ties and fragrances. Stuart Elliot,  the New York Times' advertising columnist, remarked that the ad was a "clever twist" on Trump's notoriety for casting doubt on whether President Obama's birth certificate and college transcript were real.

But to Carusone, director of online strategy for the media watchdog group Media Matters, the ad struck him as a cynical "embracing" of Trump's brand.

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His petition urging the retailer to break up with Trump has been steadily gaining traction through social media channels and media pickup. In the past Carusone, working independently, spearheaded online efforts to get Glen Beck ousted from Fox News.

The ad also featured an appearance by Martha Stewart, who served time after being convicted for insider trading. But Carusone isn't going after her because that was "a one-time thing," he said. "Macy's isn't building a business on top of her insider trading."

The Donald appeared unfazed by the growing online uproar. Trump spokesman Michael Cohen told TODAY, "The Trump Organization values its long standing relationship with Macy's and looks forward to many more years of continued success." 

Macy's so far is not changing course. Reached for comment, Macy's senior vice-president of corporate communications told TODAY: 

"Macy’s marketing and merchandise offerings are not representative of any political position. Many of the individuals associated with products sold at Macy's – or at any retailer, for that matter – express personal opinions that are not related to the merchandise we sell or to the philosophies of our company. In our merchandise assortment, we strive to meet our customers' expectations for unique and interesting products across a broad array of styles, categories and brands. This allows our customers to choose what they prefer.  A longtime focus of Macy's holiday advertising has been to celebrate the season's spirit of generosity and goodwill through our ongoing "Believe" campaign, and that is the sole message of our holiday television commercials."

By Thanksgiving, Carusone said he planned on delivering the final petition to Macy's in-person.

Meanwhile he has already started building a sub-list of the petition signers who hold Macy's store credit cards, and if there's no action from the retailer, he will encourage them to start cutting up those cards. He got the idea after people started tweeting him pictures of themselves cutting up their cards.

It'll be just in time for Black Friday, one of the year's biggest shopping days.

Carusone said he emailed Macy's CEO, along with his executive personal assistant, repeatedly before beginning the campaign and throughout it and got "zero response."

"Next week is Macy's last chance," said Carusone.

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Comment author avatarBombed outRestored

You got to be kidding. What happened to Freedom of Speech with you guys. Remember what goes around comes around. I am glad I am an Independent who can think for himself, not like most people now days.

  • 163 votes
#1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:32 AM EST
Comment author avatarharleyjackRestored

You're exactly right! Goofballs like Carusone need to get a life! And stop trying to force others into their way of thinking.

  • 138 votes
#1.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:40 AM EST

Exactly Bombed - The Donald is a pompus ass, but what of it? He's allowed in this free country. If you don't like The Donald, don't buy his stuff, that simple. If Macy's wants to use him in their ad, so what?

  • 121 votes
#1.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:47 AM EST

Learn what "Freedom of Speech" actually means before you go out quoting it. It means you are protected from the GOVERNMENT from restricting your speech. Private business has every right to do whatever they want, the Constitution doesn't come into play at all. Consumers have a right, and are more than often successful, to force a company to make a move.

  • 114 votes
#1.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:05 AM EST
Comment author avatarjim-1484608Restored

Free speech is only for progressives and dems . Everyone else has to keep to the party line

  • 84 votes
#1.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:30 AM EST
Comment author avatarProf-1231703Restored

Carusone is a bully. Oh wait! Carusone belongs to *that* group that believes they can do what they want...and they can get away with name-calling and poor behavior all they want. And *that* group follows blindly, doing whatever their grand leader tells them to think and do and believe.

What a crock! On the positive side... It probably would be better for society as a whole if *that* group DID cut up their credit cards (please don't limit yourselves to Macy's) and got their butts out of debt, and trying to get *the rest of us* to support them.

Wow. This post makes ME sound mean-spirited. This article makes Carusone and his petition-signers look even worse. And rightly so...

  • 95 votes
#1.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:32 AM EST

Freedom of speech is alive and well, and we are also free to give our business to somebody else.

If Macy's is on such firm financial footing that losing half a million customers is no problem, then wonderful!

  • 112 votes
#1.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:34 AM EST

I fully believe in freedom of speech. I also believe it is our right to not increase profits of a business that holds beliefs that are in opposition to our own or, as in a case such as this, promotes someone who is so distasteful.

Donald Trump is more than a pompous ass. He is mentally ill. His condition is called narcissistic personality disorder, but he refuses to get treatment for it, so I have no sympathy. Unfortunately, with his financial resources, he acts like a small kid playing with daddy's handgun. He uses him money to coerce people and screams outright lies that, because of his status, some people actually believe. He is dangerous.

Trump is a self-aggrandizing, egocentric, non-productive piece of rich white trash. Everything he does is for no other reason except that he wants to see his own his puffy face on television, his name in print or to increase his swollen bank account. He has never produced anything of value and is a failure as a human being.

Normally I make several purchases from Macy’s for the holidays but, if they want to bolster Trump’s ego (and his bottom line) by shoving his face in front of the me, then I will not make one purchase from them.

The Donald needs to crawl back under the rock where he hatched and keep his narrow-minded, self-serving, lies to himself.

  • 131 votes
#1.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:35 AM EST

Prof! You sound very mean spirted. Not everyone in "that" group you are referring to is in dept and wants to be supported. Stop watching Fox!

  • 46 votes
#1.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:36 AM EST

I knew the people who have NEVER READ THE CONSTITUTION would be posting, but who guessed that the very first post would be someone with absolutely no idea what the First Amendment says. For those of you who were lucky enough to be born citizens and therefore need know nothing about how our government is structured, here is the text:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Now, where does the First Amendment say that a private employer cannot terminate a financial relationship because someone speaks in a way that is not representative of the brand? I don't see a petition to get Congress to stifle Mr. Trump's speech. What I see is democracy in action - Mr. Trump made outrageous comments and deserves to feel repercussions. I would feel the same way if Mr. Romney had won the presidency and supporters of President Obama called for revolution because they disagreed with the outcome of the election. Can Mr. Trump prove there was fraud in the election? Maybe he'll offer up a couple million for that as well. Mr. Trump, you lost, now we need to see how (if) Republicans and Democrats can work TOGETHER for the betterment of this country.

  • 95 votes
#1.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:39 AM EST

Macy's can keep Trump--free speech after all. Consumer's need to realize that they have the power and if we don't want Trump then we don't shop there. The middle class needs to start flexing their muscles. I have no interest in shopping at Macy's, eating at Chick Fil A, or Papa Johns. That is my freedom.

  • 87 votes
#1.10 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:40 AM EST

Macy's is entitled to Freedom of Speech, which means they can air the ad if they so choose.

But, Freedom of Speech also means that Macy's customers have every right to cancel their credit cards, if they wish to protest against Macy's airing the ad.

Either way, Macy's is still free to choose whether to support Trump, or support their customers' wishes.

  • 76 votes
#1.11 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:41 AM EST
Comment author avatarRI MomRestored

Macy's can add Rush Limbaugh to their boy's "husky" deparatment

and Sarah Palin to their make-up counter

WHY stop now at all that "free speech" branding image ?

  • 23 votes
#1.12 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:48 AM EST

Freedom of Speech? - The concept is completely unknown to Donald Troll.

No yelling Fire in crowded theaters’ or Slandering rivals to hide your evasion of Taxes.

Telling outright lies in mass media is never considered Free Speech

  • 33 votes
#1.13 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:03 PM EST

I'm still waiting for Trump to shave his head for Marc Cuban's $1 million offer. Come on, Donald, man up, or go to France.

  • 28 votes
#1.14 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:03 PM EST

If Macy's added a gay-friendly commercial, using gay celebrities, the righties would have a fit and boycott, so please don't even try that crap about how boycotts are wrong, or only for democrats, or that "free speech is only for lefties". I seem to remember you guys boycotting JC Penney a few months back.

Hell, you'd think that the rreligious right would WANT to boycott Macy's, seeing as how the addition of Trump shows, without a doubt, that Christmas to them is 100% completely commercial --- about money only.

Bottom line: if you are against Trump's racism or if you are against the idea of making Christmas only and totally about CASH, then boycott. If these things don't bother you, well, then, don't boycott. That's where the freedom comes in.

  • 51 votes
#1.15 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:21 PM EST

Freedom of speech? How is anyone's freedom of speech being infringed?

Trump is free to say what he wants. Macy is free to say what they want. Former Macy's customers are free to cut up their cards and do business elsewhere. Everyone enjoying freedom all around.

God Bless America.

  • 67 votes
#1.16 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:33 PM EST
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Macy's won't bow to this racist Nazi, Carusone or the retards he represents....release your school records Obozo...what are you hiding....maybe the fact that you entered Harvard as a foreign national from Indonesia.....the Dumbocrats love to cover for the lies of Obozo the socialist dictator...

  • 29 votes
#1.17 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:34 PM EST

NYCGUY...WOW!!! He really has a point because he blurted out MORE hurtful names like we are back on the playground in elementary school....LMBO!!!! Sticks and stones...NYCGUY. Sticks and stones...

  • 20 votes
#1.18 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:15 PM EST

Those stating they will sever ties with Macys if it continues to associate with Donald are only exercising their Freedom of Speech as well.

  • 32 votes
#1.19 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:22 PM EST

Nycguy, with fans like you, the Donald doesn't need any enemies. You're even farther over the racist-insanity line than the Donald himself. I'd say congratulations, but I generally refuse to congradulate or reward hate speech. Which is why I'm all for this boycott. It was the Supreme Court themselves that said that money was the same as speech. An in a wholly capitalist world, which is the world we live in, despite all the pretense about religion, that is how people express their dissatisfaction with a vendor of products, by refusing to purchase them and refusing to spend their money at a store that carries them.

We Americans are just beginning to realize what labor unions learned a long time ago: The power of the individual, when combined with that of many other individuals, may be able to equal the power of a large entity, be that a corporation, a government, or a store. If we used that power to stop buying products made in china, en masse, we could, without the help of the government or corporations, at least at first, make this a viable economy again. But in the meantime, we can use our power to make our wishes known, store by store. And I hope that enough of us want there to be consequences to the bullying and hate speech from those like the Donald that we can change Macy's mind about it's affiliation with him.

Personally, and much closer to my own heart, is a boycott that I'm already participating in against Macy's and a number of other retailers, against those who deliberately sell mis-labeled fur products from china. Items with fur trim, or made from fur that are labeled as "faux-fur" that come from China and other parts of southeast Asia are almost always actually made from real animals, sometimes dogs and cats that are often skinned alive and take up to 15 minutes to finish dying. They are labeled as "faux" fur because they know that Westerners care about such things, and Macy's is one of the top retailers in the sales of these deceiptful items. Uggs boots are an example, but most fur-trimmed coats and vests, if made in Asia, are also dependent upon horrific suffering of animals. If you'd like to join that boycott, more information is available at www.hsus.org.

  • 24 votes
#1.20 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:28 PM EST

Every single one of you who think Freedom of Speech is in any way related to this article is a complete moron.

That is all...

  • 27 votes
#1.21 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:35 PM EST

Hey, maybe Donald Trump can sell those manly pink ties of his to the good ole' repubs waddling their way down the aisle in Walmart!

They will go great with their camo jackets!

and BTW, what a waste of a beautiful women (his wife) to have to let that thing roll on top of her every night. God's got a sick sense of humor.

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:09 PM EST

"Every single one of you who think Freedom of Speech is in any way related to this article is a complete moron." That's moronic! It's Macy's Free Speach Rights to pay Donald for his air/talent in its commercials... And its Free Speach that allows such a petition to be circulated and presented to Macy's.

  • 1 vote
#1.23 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:26 PM EST

Macy isn't supporting Trump their playing on his stupidity and you go overboard and follow another clown and his stupidity for what a politician. Now how stupid is that? Free speech my backside!

  • 6 votes
#1.24 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:28 PM EST

We are practicing freedom of speech and voicing our distaste for Trump. He is dispicable and we do not want to purchase from a company that embraces/supports his attitudes and beliefs. This is a way to let Macy's know that they have customer (or potential customers) who might take their business elsewhere if they don't give attention to our complaints. My father told me that the worst customer is the customer that won't complain...they just take their business elsewhere. If they complain, you, as a business, have a chance to fix it before they leave.

  • 12 votes
#1.25 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:34 PM EST

Wall of separation....I said nothing racist, so apparently you like to see things that don't exist....also, I love fur and the only thing I would do is kill the animals quicker.....

  • 2 votes
#1.26 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:39 PM EST

Boo hoo!! Consequences come from being a dick. There is nothing at all un Constitutional about private citizens urging a retailer to take another look at its relationship with a clown like Trump. The jackass has called for an overthrow of the government because he is a fear mongering plutocrat who has started believing his own BS. If Macy's wants to listen to their customers and rethink this relationship there isn't a whole lot the Constitution can do about it.

Of course we all know that most people like Trump actually support the Articles of Confederation with its emphasis on State's rights over limited Federal government and that they just go around claiming that the Constitution actually says this so as not to sound like Confederates still fighting the Civil War. Trump and other State's rights, birther jackasses are nothing but John Birch society plutocrats and anti-Union Confederates. In my view he should have his citizenship revoked for his anti-Americanism.

  • 13 votes
#1.27 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:53 PM EST

Macy's better start thinking of the people that pay cash...Those charge cards, most of them won't be paid...The welfare recipients will go broke.

Keep Donald!!! and you can all shut the *&^# up.

  • 17 votes
#1.28 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:12 PM EST

If I were Macy's I would tell this jerk Carusone to stop trying to impose his brand of ideology on businesses and that he's not welcome in any Macy's store. Let him shop at the dollar store.

I don't believe anyone at Macy's is losing any sleep over this moron.

  • 21 votes
#1.29 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:17 PM EST

Hey jean, you could shut the @!$%# up!

  • 7 votes
#1.30 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:18 PM EST

Wow, radagast, I was about to write a comment explaining how the liberal mindset calls for the complete elimination of those who disagree with them; however, your asinine comment did the job for me....thanks!

  • 9 votes
#1.31 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:22 PM EST

What happened to Freedom of Speech with you guys.

We do have freedom of speech. And we have the freedom not to do business at Macy's. What goes around comes around.

  • 7 votes
#1.32 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:36 PM EST

I can sign a sheet of paper too but if my daughter wants that Macy special for Xmas guess what she gets and Carusone gets Trumped! That goes for all of you! Free enterprise Trumps Free speech when it come to pleasing the heart of the one we love the most, that's what Macy understands! Come black Friday when Macy's is the only store with that one item and you don't have that Macy credit card and you don't have the cash guess what you'll be singing up for. They have a name for you! I won't use it now because you have the ability to tell me I wrong now nut Wait.

  • 5 votes
#1.33 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:39 PM EST

While I definitely think the liberals are dumb for being so outraged at Trump (you dont see the same attacks going to crazy outspoken wackos on the left like Samuel Jackson and Bill Maher, yet they are quick to say racist things to Stacey Dash if she doesnt agree with their hive mind), its their freedom of speech too. If they want to sign a petition because of ignorance, fine. Stop running up your debt and going bankrupt for all we care. Macys wont miss the moochers.

  • 17 votes
#1.34 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:39 PM EST

Freedom of speech is not freedom from the consequences of that speech. I also point out that if you use someone in an AD for your company, that does not exempt you from the repercussions of that action. I for one have already cut up and sent back my Macy's card with a final payment. It is MY freedom to choose where to spend my money that allows me to do this. I do not support companies that support those who I feel are bad for America. To those that have a problem with that, you obviously hate the free market system since this is exactly what it is all about.

  • 10 votes
#1.35 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:42 PM EST

Where were all you freedom of speech supporters back in 2001. When the right wing and fox news went after the dixie chicks?

http://countrymusic.about.com/od/news/a/natspeaksout.htm

  • 10 votes
#1.36 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:49 PM EST

All this nonsense about Freedom of Speech is just a diversion. This is essentially a boycott of Trump. This is otherwise known as the free market dictating what it wants.

The free market is determining that Trump is out.

  • 9 votes
#1.37 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:53 PM EST

Hey boom!, Trump isnt out of anything. Some people cutting up their cards who are probably on the lower end of Macy's worries arent going to make them cut their ties to one of the most powerful business men in the world.

Sing all you want, not everyone will listen to your sh#%.

  • 11 votes
#1.38 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:58 PM EST

No wonder the Republicans lost! Free Speech means you can't be arrested for what you say. That doesn't mean there won't be consequences from those who disagree with you. Are you really that stupid???

  • 8 votes
#1.39 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:07 PM EST

Who gives a rat's butt who is in their ads? Donald isn't shopping WITH you when you go to Macy's!

Grow up people!

  • 14 votes
#1.40 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:07 PM EST

Whoever thinks what Donald Trump says/tweets deserves to be sanctioned and protected as "free speech" is insulting the Constitution. It was anarchistic, racist, treasonous drivel. He calls for a revolution, and you morons want to protect it, the Occupy Protestors call for a revolution, you call them lazy and say they should all be thrown in prison. Hypocrites.

  • 5 votes
#1.41 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:16 PM EST

This is just beyond ludicrous. If you don't like Donald Trump, don't watch his shows and don't patronize businesses that promote him.

  • 9 votes
#1.42 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:20 PM EST

Trump et. al. are the reason the Republicans lost the election. I figure Trump must be a closet Dem. like those CEOs that threatened firings if Obama got elected. They turned the undecided decidedly left. If the kept their support strictly financial and kept their traps shut, I'm betting the election may have turned.

Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

  • 4 votes
#1.43 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:21 PM EST

Free speech, freedom of association, freedom of religion. You are free to practice them all in you own manner. And we all have the freedom to not associate or participate in the promotion of an A Hole like Trump. I don't care about the ad, and I think it is actually kind of funny that Donald Duck does not see the irony that he is being ridiculed for his stupidity. But at the same time, if people decide to tell Macys that they will not shop or buy their stuff if they have the Donald representing their brand, that is free speech too.........

  • 5 votes
#1.44 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:21 PM EST

Funny that many do not seem to understand this is not about free speech but the consequences thereof. I truly thought most of you were smarter than that! This is no different than the efforts made to ban the Dixie Chicks from country radio. But they never suggested anyone take up arms against Bush. Personally I would never buy or watch anything even loosely related to the Donald.

The Right is so hypocritical they aren't even worth debating. I do think the criticism of Ms. Dash went overboard but she put her self out there, it's not as if anyone had even heard of her in years. She is clearly an anamoly anyway. One can imagine the percent of the black female vote Romney won.

Laughable to attempt to compare that to the horrific false and bigoted criticisms of Obama for 4 solid years. Much of which could not even be posted here. But you people paid a heavy price at the poll for that and likely will again.

  • 4 votes
#1.45 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:22 PM EST

While I definitely think the liberals are dumb for being so outraged at Trump

Yes, how dumb am I to be outraged by a greedy, narcissistic megalomaniac who has made a fortune by filing for bankruptcy repeatedly and screwing over MILLIONS of Americans. How dare I want to boycott someone like that? I MUST BE INSANE.

  • 8 votes
#1.46 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:23 PM EST

I will dump trump by not spending money on his goods. Let's see if we can make him file bankruptcy AGAIN!

  • 5 votes
#1.47 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:28 PM EST

This isn't about Freedom of Speech it's about Donald Trump who is a bullying thug and consumers telling the people who give him money to drop him or they will be hurt financially. Trump is a lying hateful scumbag who perpetrates the worst time of fear mongering just to make himself look important. People need to stand up to this human filth and stop him dead in his tracks and let EVERYONE that does business with him that their own business is in danger if they don't drop him

  • 2 votes
#1.48 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:41 PM EST

I personally could care less for Donald Trump. He has a nasty habit of f---ing over Contractor's who sub for his company. But this is extortion, AKA Jesse Jackson Sr style! If Mr Curasone doesn't like the Macy add ,then he shouldn't shop at Macy's. Like it or not Trump is a fixture of New York the same as Macy's,and they both put people to work. If Trump's item's get pulled he lays off workers. If Macy cards are cut up you can forget about impulse Christmas purchases so Macy's holiday workers get cut as well. So who would you be hurting? Macy's, Donald Trump, or Angelo Curasone's ego? I got one, let's get a on-line petition to fire Al Sharpton and Rush Limbaugh!? That would be doing a service for America, not Mr Curasone's agenda!

  • 2 votes
#1.49 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:41 PM EST

So the new message is the progressives are the new bully on the block. If they don't like you then you are rubbed out...nice from the big tent party of tolerance and inclusion.

Here is a new thought Media Matters and any relationships they have are now open season for the opposition...the division and tit for tat continue. It a new day in the Divided States of America...welcome comrades.

"But to Carusone, director of online strategy for the media watchdog group Media Matters, the ad struck him as a cynical "embracing" of Trump's brand, which Carusone described as being built on "consequence-free bullying," noting the birtherism controversy, and Trump's history of misogynistic comments. The ad was also released shortly after Trump tweeted calls for "revolution," following President Obama's re-election."

Dismissed as divisive and unproductive.

  • 6 votes
#1.50 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:45 PM EST

Oh, so this is how people are treated for their Freedom of Speech. ALL of you Libs are the same. No one can express their free speech, unless it is in agreement with the Libs. You people act worse than a child.

  • 11 votes
#1.51 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:49 PM EST

Here we go again, first Chick-Fil-A, now Macy"s. Well Donald, look forward to a record breaking sales on your name brand items.

How far will the far left liberals go? Just another ploy to tell Americans what to do and make them comply with the masses of fools. First the far left disregards God, then they use a christian holiday in attempt to bring down a good successful man. If Donald Trump sat on his rear chatting on his FREE Obama phone collecting welfare and had his name brand products at Macy's, do you think this would be an issue?

I for one will do ALL of my Christmas shopping at Macy's. I will put thoes items under my CHRISTMAS tree, not a holiday tree.

Long live the freedom believers!

  • 12 votes
#1.52 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:50 PM EST
  • 1 vote
#1.53 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:55 PM EST

Geez, you people and your knee-jerk boycotts. Boycotts used to MEAN something. Now people boycott over flavors of ice cream. One of these days we are really going to need to make a statement and there will be nothing left to turn to but violence because boycotts are a daily occurance over such trivial things these days.

Boycotting over some idiot like Trump is admitting that he's getting to you. The annoying gnat has won. If you're going to boycott Macy's, why not over something substantive, like the many celeb designers who actually did something illegal and/or served jail time, you hypocrites.

  • 7 votes
#1.54 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:55 PM EST

Carusone objects to Trump's "consequence-free bullying" by bullying Macy's.

Greetings pot, I'm kettle.

  • 10 votes
#1.55 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:59 PM EST

Bombed out

You got to be kidding. What happened to Freedom of Speech

wow, maybe you should find out what "Freedom of Speech" actually means. No one is telling the Don he cannot say what he wants to say. What he is being told that his speech has consequences which is dissatisfied Macy's customer.

  • 2 votes
#1.56 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:00 PM EST

The below has been attributed to Jeff Foxworthy.

If a Republican doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Democrat doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A Democrat wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a Republican doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels..
Democrats demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.

If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A Democrat demands that the rest of us pay for his.

We can all see that Carusone is a Democrat!!!!

  • 20 votes
#1.57 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:03 PM EST

I see the 47% still think they have a voice

  • 3 votes
#1.58 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:11 PM EST

voxrationis,

I love how you said Dash put herself out there, when she made one tweet in support of Romney. Some of the most vile racist things were said about her, and libs acted like it was ok since she was wrong or whatever. Then Eva Longoria puts a racist tweet up and libs come to her defense making excuses. But somehow Trump and the right are different. Keep living in la la land.

And for those saying thats why Romney lost, he lost by less than 5% in most of the swing states. It wasnt a beating. Face it, liberals only support freedom of speech if it is what they agree with. They also attack anyone for disagreeing with them by calling them racist, then come to the defense of liberals saying actually racist things. Hypocrisy has found a comfortable home with the left.

  • 6 votes
#1.59 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:11 PM EST

I'm all for free speech, Macy's can say what ever they want, but their will be fall out, I for one will boycott them along with Papa John's. The founder and chairman John Schnatter, the plans on firing(which he has a right to)as many as 150-200 employees because Obama won and now he will have to offer them health insurance. This guy made a PROFIT of over 44 million so far this year. Boy I guess the greed and ignorance really shows.

  • 4 votes
#1.60 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:11 PM EST

DelFairchild-1968594-it works both ways....

If a republican does not believe in abortion-rather than just not having one-they make laws prohibiting all women from having one.

If a republican doesn't believe in gay marriage-rather than just not marrying a person of the same sex-they try to ban everyone from doing it.

If a republican doesn't believe in contraception-rather than just not using it-they make access harder for all...

Macy's absolutely has the 1st Amendment right to put whomever they wish in their advertising campaign.

The people who drew up this petition also have the 1st Amendment right to protest who they use in their ads.

As this is an ad campaign-Macy's will need to weigh the pros and cons of having a controversial figure in their ads in terms of sales loss.

Everyone in this situation is using their rights-triumph for the free market!

  • 5 votes
#1.61 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:11 PM EST

bayllie, Wow, in other words, Donald Trump cannot say what he wants if it upsets you Liberals. Thanks for making that perfectly queer.

  • 7 votes
#1.62 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:12 PM EST

lol @Brian in Memphis: you shouldn't throw around the word moronic and spell a simple word like "speech" incorrectly. Twice.

Incidentally, @princessbride hit the nail on the head. Congress cannot infringe on free speech that is not provoking violence, but that's not the point of the article at all. It's people who want to make a difference, like those nut jobs filing petitions for secession. They're free to do so, but you're also free to have your opinion for or against it.

The "freedom of speech" argument is used way too often in today's society. You can say what you want, but nobody can prevent you from suffering consequences of what you say. Don't insult people and claim "free speech", thinking it's a free pass for bigotry, close-mindedness, and general meanness of spirit. How about instead of preaching the 1st Amendment all the time, people preach the Golden Rule instead? Everyone is filled with so much hate!

  • 3 votes
#1.63 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:16 PM EST

Macy's won't miss the people that cut up their cards. I bet they are happy they did, they can't afford them anyways. It's just less people that will file bankruptcy on them.

If you people get off on cutting up your card, do it! I don't want my macy's card intrest to go up because you can't afford them and the people who can have to bail you out.

I believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of ignorance.

  • 5 votes
#1.64 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:22 PM EST

Mr. Accountability - freedom of speech comes with responsibility and sometimes with ramifications. Trump if free to spout whatever treasonous bullsh!t he wishes, he's free to lie to consumers regarding where his products are made, and he's free to waste air touting conspiracy theories regarding our elected officials. However, if people don't like what he says, they're free to suggest boycotting his products.

  • 2 votes
#1.65 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:26 PM EST

Gee KevinR1723001 you seem to "feel" more than you THINK !

Hey PRECEDEDBYNONE, your "treasonous drivel" strongly indicates that YOU are in fact INSANE, as indicated by your mindless liberal lockstep posts!

  • 1 vote
#1.66 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:30 PM EST

uchusky99:

The laws are on the books that abortions are legal. It is most likely settled law even though it most likely isn't the correct thing to do. Many other ways to not have children in the first place than to kill them after they are conceived. It is just not right to kill an innocent which a republican wouldn't most likely do, but black democrats do every day. (Of Annual US abortions, 36% are performed on black babies). How is that for genocide? The US black population is 12% of total. See blackgenocide.org for more information.

Some of my friends over the years have been gay. They can get married all they want. Just not in some states. This is a state's rights. People can move to states that allow it or move to where they don't allow it.

Contraceptives are very easy to get in all states. Just go to any state sponsored outreach center. Better to have contraceptives than to kill a innocent baby.

I'm not condemning Macy's for their stance, but am condemning Carusone for his. He can let people decide on their own. They are big enough that they don't need his help in initiating their 1st Amendment rights. That was the idea behind what Mr. Foxworthy had put out. If you don't like something, don't participate in it.

  • 4 votes
#1.67 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:37 PM EST

I found the collapsed comments interesting in that they were all against Carusone and hardly any were inappropriate especially in comparison to some not collapsed. Carusone wants to put out of business anyone that does not agree with him especially if they get any attention. It's interesting how the majority of the hateful speech comes from those preaching tolerance. I guess tolerance only applies if you agree with them.

  • 2 votes
#1.68 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:59 PM EST

Its simple really: you dont like a buisness's ethics, dont shop there and dont support the company its as easy as that. That my republican enemies is CAPITALISM at its best and we all know how you love it. That is why i refuse to ever support chic fillet and urban outfitters. They came out being strongly against gay marriage so i as a caring citizen that values liberty decided that their stance along with their outlandish prices for mediocre product was motivation enough for me to refuse to do buisness with them. Same thing with trump, he has always been a class A douche so as long as he is affiliated with MACYs they have lost my buisness as well. One person sure isnt a diff, but many people do make a difference. I suggest we use our capitalist system in that way. I also dont shop at places like wallmart because of how little they support their employees both financially and benefit wise. there is no reason a multi-billion dollar company should ever treat its employees so @!$%#*y PERIOD end of story. Speak out with your money america because in todays society, money is all the elite care about trust me.

  • 1 vote
#1.69 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:50 PM EST

Trump is a joke. He likes attention. Don't give it to him.

  • 2 votes
#1.70 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:52 PM EST

I say to Macy's... Let them cut up thier cards but keep a rewcord of those who do so a month or two down the road when they want another one you can say no you are not elegible for one any longer. The half million people who signed the petition like the store enough to have a card so the will be back quicker thanTrump can comb his hair.

More stupid protesting by people looking for thier 15 minutes of fame. Anyone with 3 or more brain cells would realize the ad will be gone in 6 weeks because it is a Christmas season ad.

  • 1 vote
#1.71 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:06 PM EST

marketing 101 make sure the people you put in an ad are liked by people.

Mr. Trump, you are the weakest link, goodbye,

  • 2 votes
#1.72 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:19 PM EST

Actually, considering Republicans and Conservatives generally have more disposable income than Democrats and Liberals - I would say if Republicans and Conservatives said they would cut up their cards if Macy's dumped Trump, they'd lose a lot more money.

    #1.73 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:19 PM EST

    When did campaign 2016 start? Give it a rest. You liberals need Paxil. Obviously Macy's believes this guy is a NYC icon and you're not. It is their money and they can spend anyway they want. You people have made Macy's Trump move look very good. Think of all the FREE advertising you have given them. I'll bet you they are going to laughing all away to the bank. Brilliant move by Macy's and you morons fell for it.

      #1.74 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:22 PM EST

      I don't get this. All this outrage over Trump.. but no one cared about the plethora of Michael Jackson paraphenilia being sold.

        #1.75 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:32 PM EST

        Trump and the poppa johns @!$%# should be run out of town, but a pattern is emerging that even the blind can see, (I've seen it from the beginning), these white folks can't stand President Obama.

        • 1 vote
        #1.76 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:31 PM EST

        Wow, SOOO many conservatives who don't understand free speech. So QUICK to defend Trumps, so so quick to dismiss Carusone's.

        You all deserve the tool.

        • 1 vote
        #1.77 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:38 AM EST

        Trump in disgusting. His Apprentice show further promotes and glamourizes that lying, cheating, fighting and name calling get you ahead in business. He "you're fired" many people who didn't turn into satan, just so they could head up one of his companies. I am with an earlier poster, I won't shop there, eat at Chick-Fil-A or Papa Johns. I'm re-thinking my purchases from Wal-mart and I am checking labels closer where things are made. Power is in our hands and if we do a little work, we can make a huge statement. Just like I will push my car before I put a drop of Exxon, Chevron or BP gasoline in it.

        Back to Trump, if you notice, he is always in a fight with someone. I think this is mainly because he can't stand to not have people talking about him. Start a fight with someone who is well known and keep his own name at the top of the news. Yuck! And as far as Martha Stewart goes, I'm not even sure she broke the law. I'm not sure there was ever the proof that was needed, just somebodies word against hers, and a lot of people don't like strong women, so they made an example out of her. If any law was broken, a million men before her had done the same, but oh, my is that a different story! So as far as she goes, I don't mind her on the commercials one bit. In fact, I miss her TV shows and specials and wish she would be on even more.

        So, if someone wants to head up a protest, let them. If you agree with them (which I do in this case) then join in. If not, ignore them. If you want to watch a commercial, watch it. If someone on it bothers you, turn it off. If you want to shop somewhere, by all means shop! If not, then don't. Consumers hold the power and it's about damn time we started standing together and using it. We've been taken advantage of plenty long enough!

        And one last thing. All the cutsey commercials where the woman is demeaning the man, making the rules, and putting down her boyfriend/husband is not funny anymore. It wasn't cute 10 years ago and it isn't cute now. If these commercials were reversed, we'd see all kind of bra's being burnt and protest marches. Fair is fair. THEY ARE NOT FUNNY! So let's move on and show husbands/wives, boyfriend's/girlfriends, men/women as equal. Remember examples are being set. "Careful the things you say, children will listen"!

        • 1 vote
        #1.78 - Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:11 PM EST
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        Comment author avatarRick-546746Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Donald Chump the serial bankruptcy king? He is a racist clownboy like most blow dried old white guys

        • 40 votes
        #2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:39 AM EST

        What's the "racist" comment about, Rick? Most old white guys have little or no hair on their heads -- hardly "blow dried" w/o risking scalp burns. You apparently don't like old white guys -- doesn't that make you the racist, or do you fall into one of the exemption categories allowing you to say anything you like without the risk of being labeled what you are?

        • 29 votes
        #2.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:09 PM EST

        I'm guessing this Carusone is a hispanic democrat that thought it was a good idea to reelect Obama. I don't like Trump, or Kanye or Martha or Jessica. I don't shop at Macy's because when I see the store it makes me think of Trump's hair which is not enticing to say the least.

        All that aside, though, I don't like this guy either. He's one of those liberals who thinks only he knows what is right and keeps getting it wrong. If he wants Trump ousted, all the rest should go, too.

        You know, compromise.

        • 8 votes
        #2.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:36 PM EST

        Most older white guys don't have a muppet superglued to their head like Donald Chump. At least it looks like a piece, not sure if it really is.

        • 14 votes
        #2.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:49 PM EST

        A tempest in a tea pot. Its all talk, and piffle at that. I'll wager that fewer than 1 in 100 of the "injured" parties will actually cut their cards up. What a sad commentary. STFU - and that includes me. Out.

        • 8 votes
        #2.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:26 PM EST

        I never shopped at Macys in my life and don't care about Trump either.

        Only thing Trump has I like... is his good looking daughter.

        • 3 votes
        #2.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:32 PM EST

        You are a child, well actually some children act better

        • 1 vote
        #2.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:51 PM EST

        There ya go! Attacking people and not the arguement as usual for Libs. You are less than a child.

        • 10 votes
        #2.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:53 PM EST

        And your a drone with no common sense outside of liberal clap trap ideology. Grow up. He's given more to charity, created more jobs, and done more in one day than you will with your entire pathetic life. Hello? Reality calling drone? Anyone home? You attack people and never see the argument, scream racist and never know what real racism is while blunting it's legitimacy. Sad really, your probably some pasty moron in your undies with Cheetos stains.

        • 12 votes
        #2.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:00 PM EST

        Its potentially a great display of freedom of speech in action and how it plays out. Donald Trump is certainly free to say whatever he wants and consumers will either respond favorably or disfavorably based on their opinions. The consumers at Macy's then are the ultimate "voters" as to how they feel about the situation and will vote favorably or disfavorably with their pocketbooks. Democracy and freedom of speech in action. I did think it funny on David Letterman...after Donald Trump had been endlessly going on about how weak Obama was pertaining to China and we needed to get tough with China and Letterman brought out Donald Trumps shirts and ties on the air and they had "made in China" labels on them. A bit of an embarrassing moment for The Donald.

        • 10 votes
        #2.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:01 PM EST

        Seriously???? I just don't understand why people complain when their first amendment right is taken away, but now we won't shop at Macy's because Trump spouts off??? I don't care for him either, but that doesn't stop me from shopping at Macy's. Come on people, it's freedom of speech and if you don't like it, don't listen. It has to go both ways!!!

        • 9 votes
        #2.10 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:16 PM EST

        This is, by definition, the free market.

        I don't like your product or how you sell it-I refuse to buy it.

        I like your product and how you sell it-I buy it.

        • 11 votes
        #2.11 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:19 PM EST

        There are many other stores I can shop at and Macy's has lost my business as long as Trump is in any way associated with the store. He is a disgusting piece of garbage.

        Denise - I'm all for freedom of speech AND actions and my choice is to not support ANY business that is related to Trump!

        • 9 votes
        #2.12 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:19 PM EST

        Macy's absolutely has the 1st Amendment right to put whomever they wish in their advertising campaign. This petition is not questioning that.

        The people who drew up this petition also have the 1st Amendment right to protest who they use in their ads.

        As this is an ad campaign-Macy's will need to weigh the pros and cons of having a controversial figure in their ads in terms of sales loss.

        Everyone in this situation is using their rights-triumph for the free market!

        • 5 votes
        #2.13 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:21 PM EST

        Here come the radical, left-wing Word Police.

        Led by the criminal front group, Media Matters.

        • 9 votes
        #2.14 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:23 PM EST

        I'm no big Trump fan but I less of a fan of 'blackballing' and 'censorship'. I don't need Caruso to tell me who to like or not like or where to shop or not shop. As arrogant and egotistical as The Donald might be this Angelo dude has him "trumped." Angelo would've made a great judge during the Salem Witch Trials.

        • 8 votes
        #2.15 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:26 PM EST

        People are upset with Donald Trump because he attempted to extort the President. Granted, it wasn't anything illegal, but it was in extremely poor taste. A lot of people believe that the "birther" issue and the college application release is a reflection of racist sentiment...myself included. Criticizing policy is one thing, suggesting that the President is not a natural born citizen is another.

        • 6 votes
        #2.16 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:27 PM EST

        Arthur66 - one of the right wing haters who follows a lowlife like Trump!

        • 3 votes
        #2.17 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:32 PM EST

        There are few beings as beneath contempt as those who threaten others in order to try and get their way.

        If you don't like Donald Trump and don't like the fact that Macy's has him in an ad, then simply don't shop there. Don't make threats. Don't attempt to use intimidation style tactics in order to force them to change because YOU don't like it.

        Either shop there or don't...but don't make threats. Threats are the weapons of the coward and the bully.

        This Carusone guy is pathetic.

        • 5 votes
        #2.18 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:38 PM EST

        And once again the a far left liberal proves himself to be a hyprocrite. The left preaches tolerance for all others, that is unless you do not agree with them. Then its bully, threaten, intimidate all those you do not agree with until the left gets their way or they simply take their ball and go home.

        I'm sure Macy's is really scared about a bunch of far lefties cutting up their cards and not shopping there anymore. My guess is that Macy's will actually welcome this as they will have far lower delinquency rate and actual get paid for the merchandise that is charged to the Macy's card once this guy and his followers cut up their Macy's cards.

        • 3 votes
        #2.19 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:58 PM EST

        We should start a pettition to keep Trump in the ads.... or we will cut up OUR Macy's cards. Who do you thing spends more at Macy's? ...People with money or people who are jeaulous because they need Obama's welfare?

        • 1 vote
        #2.20 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:03 PM EST

        Liberals have forgotten that Repulicans have freedom of speech and if you do not like Trump do not buy his stuff, who in the hell do you think you are to threathen Macys? I hope they do the right thing and laugh in your face because one shoper lost is another new customer. I see the socialize government is starting.

        • 1 vote
        #2.21 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:04 PM EST

        Is this part of that revenge thing, good thing the nazi's are in power. How flipping ridiculous can you get?

        • 1 vote
        #2.22 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:20 PM EST

        I don't like the way Martha Stewart treated her employees. I don't like her receipes because they are too complicated. She is a narcisisst. I don't buy her stuff. That is my right. You don't like Trump don't buy his sutff. That is your right. Why are your liberal shorts in a bundle? I hope it is not because you are following the nerd that wrote this article? He REALLY is not worth following...even if you are a liberal.

          #2.23 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:11 PM EST

          Dosen't anybody have anything more important to worry about than who Macy's is using in a commercial? Wow.

            #2.24 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:52 AM EST
            Reply

            So your response isn't racist? Hypocrite!

            • 17 votes
            #3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:41 AM EST

            Why are you talking to yourself?

            • 6 votes
            #3.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:54 PM EST

            Should use reply button harley..starting a new post is confusing, hard to tell who were you talking about. How you get six up votes is odd too!

            • 7 votes
            #3.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:37 PM EST

            There should be an IQ test required to log on to the internet. Then all you sheep would be silenced! People will believe anything! I Know that's true. I read it on the net! Fools.

            • 3 votes
            #3.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:55 PM EST

            Never shopped at Macy's but if they stand up to this jack a and maintain the relationship with Trump I will. I am getting really tired of having my opinion handed to me by people and being told that we infringe on their rights or they want to bully someone. Don't cave in Macy's

            • 38 votes
            #3.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:20 PM EST

            Trump has a right to free speech.

            However, because his pal, Romney, lost the presidential election, does not give Trump the right to call for a "revolution" and encourage subversion.

            ...its time for The Donald to be yanked by Macys.

            • 23 votes
            #3.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:28 PM EST

            I agree with Quit in Michigan! I am a very loyal customer of Macy's and have an account with them. If they oust The Donald I will not shop at Macy's and close my account with them.

            • 19 votes
            #3.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:35 PM EST

            i agree with quit in michigan, this is the biggest baloney in history! everyone who signed is an idiot! Trump has every right to offer obama money to see his college grades, (if they even exist) Trump has given more money to charities then obama has or would, obamas brother still lives in a shack in Kenya! obama won't even give charity to his own brother! how stupid is that.

            • 18 votes
            #3.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:37 PM EST

            Ridiculously, Trump is arrogant.

            He probably wonders what would God do without him.

            This man needs to be an "apprentice" in Civility.

            • 17 votes
            #3.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:38 PM EST

            obama did some serious voter fraud, so alot of anti obamas were pist, and i would say, rightfully sooo! especially when a few states had 108% who voted for obama! give me a break.

            • 12 votes
            #3.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:44 PM EST

            So who is being the bully now?

            But that's ok?

            The irony....Mandating a boycott or a withdrawal of an advertisement IS

            bullying!!!

            • 17 votes
            #3.10 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:45 PM EST

            If i were Trump i would sue the pants off of Carusone, and his organizers. Sue till there working the next ten years garnished. Trump had only words, this guy wants to destroy a source of income and force a business into his will, this is harmful. Sue him.

            • 19 votes
            #3.11 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:51 PM EST

            whats happening is that obama wants to take down anyone who questions him, and he wants to start with Trump first, because if he can get everyone to ignore Trump, then he can start dismantle-ling America bits to bits, without anyone noticing.

            Trump made a statement that he quickly took back, and did not pursue, and he even erased! so what! nobody took it serious, because it could of been a joke for all we know! and believe me, alot of celebs tell some pretty ugly jokes, and they don't get accounted for them.

            • 9 votes
            #3.12 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:51 PM EST

            I already boycott all things Trump.

            • 14 votes
            #3.13 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:54 PM EST

            cameo7i Trump has every right to offer obama money to see his college grades,

            Trump does not not have any right to demand to see Obama's college grades. Because President Obama is an African American, Trump has engaged in a psychopathic tirade against our president. It is acceptable for Obama's former employers to ask to see his grades. Why did not The Donald to ask Obama's predecessor's "C" grades. How does a "C" end up as president of the U.S?

            The people elected Obama as president, not Trump.

            Obama does not owe Trump anything, except a good "mind your own business!"

            • 14 votes
            #3.14 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:56 PM EST

            sure trump has every right to stand-up as a moron. however, macy's is a public consumer store that sell the products of this moron and if its customers believe the store profits from these trump products "made in china" (didnt he look like an idiot on letterman show when dave called trump out on where his clothing is made) and are willing to advertise his disrespect for the American people through macys tongue and cheek tv ad then customers should not walk through any of macys doors or websites.

            • 10 votes
            #3.15 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:01 PM EST

            well i'm gonna say this, charity starts at home, and if obama has family living in shacks, he don't love his own family enough to support them, then the american people have a serious problem, because if obama don't love his own family, then he surely don't love america. he didn't win if the glove didn't fit! he got more votes then there are voters. and i like obama too, but if don't fit, it don't fit.

            • 3 votes
            #3.16 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:05 PM EST

            I love to read that all of our fine citizens have an understaning of that document that encompasses significantly MORE that freedom of speech. Please review the sections that pertain to TREASONOUS act whether SPOKEN or enacted and I think you might agree that the DONALD has (through lack of producing ANY factual documentation) COMMITTED A SERIOUS ACT OF TREASON!!!!! I am calling for the traiterous pigs immediate arrest under articles of the constitution of these United States, and that ALL assets be siezed and distibuted according to laws of our great country. FURTHERMORE, sentence should be carried out immediately. Of course now we'll have to find the seven man firing squad that believes this pigs life is even worth 7 pieces of lead........

            • 4 votes
            #3.17 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:08 PM EST

            i mean ofcourse, right! because were taught to question everything, but when were adults, it is really a crime!

              #3.18 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:15 PM EST

              Really? With a name like alwaysfaithfulmusic, I would have expected more of a Christian attitude

              • 2 votes
              #3.19 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:17 PM EST

              i agree diane, i hope alwaysfaithfulblahblah blah, made that calling to chris matthews first! cause even if he was joking, i don't think 110 deaths were a laughing matter. and it only made the voting more fraudulent looking.

              • 1 vote
              #3.20 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:21 PM EST

              OMG!!!!!!

              There really are people like CAMEO7 in this country. Must be from the hills in W. Virginia, or something. Opinions aside, did she/he, get one single FACT right.

              I mean, Obama got more votes than there are voters. SAY WHAT?

              Has a brother living in a shack in Kenya. SAY WHAT?

              He didn't win if the glove didn't fit. SAY WHAT?

              Obama can start dismantling America, bit by bit. SAY WHAT?

              Obama did some serious voter fraud. SAY WHAT?

              A few states gave Obama 108% of the votes. SAAAY WHAAAAT?

              Oh, God help us all, if this is ANY indication of the state of intellect in US>

              • 10 votes
              #3.21 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:32 PM EST

              Hey Dianne:

              How do you like cameo7 hitching herself to you????

              • 1 vote
              #3.22 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:35 PM EST

              HEY DIANNE:

              How is the name that hooks itself with the marines (U.S. Marine Corp.), relate to christian.

              Only christians are in the Marines, I guess.

                #3.23 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:39 PM EST

                If you think about it, Trump's tirade may be actionable. Trump has the financial means to finance at least the organization of a revolt. He has also has had political aspirations. I think charging Trump with Treason and perhaps 100 years in Leavenworth (or worse) would help the GOP tremendously.

                • 3 votes
                #3.24 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:41 PM EST

                sayitall, do not direct me! if you have facts that contradict my post, then post them! that's all! what gives! if you look up ohio, obamas voters are in question! say yeah, look up facts about obama instead of being his little (you know what) lol

                • 1 vote
                #3.25 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:42 PM EST

                Always interesting how these right wingers don't respond on this very stage to remarks or questions, regarding the inflammatory, incorrect remarks they routinely make. Do you hear me DIANNE and CAMEO7.

                • 1 vote
                #3.26 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:43 PM EST
                Radcliffe4Deleted

                Cameo7 You see though, if you question everything you wind up paranoid and insane. There are these things called reason and fact that you eventually must contend with.

                • 4 votes
                #3.28 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:45 PM EST

                Let me tell you CAMEO7;

                IF even one word of what you posted was even remotely correct, the republican party would be all over it....they aren't; FOX news would be all over it....they aren't; AND Romney himself would be all over it....he isn't!!!! Nope, on the contrary, Romney is sitting down with Obama to help form a strategy that will benefit Americans, not democrats or republicans. Try being an American, and burying the hatchet, and then work hard to make this a better country!!!!

                NO voter recounts have been requested.

                • 4 votes
                #3.29 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:50 PM EST

                Kudos, STEVE J

                • 1 vote
                #3.30 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:51 PM EST

                wa wa wa! you guys are the ones whining! what happened, you guys still think Trump should give his 5 million for free! oh please! but did obama replace it, no! you guys are just his little sheep! who cares, but if Macys takes out Trump, there will be alot more lost customers.

                • 1 vote
                #3.31 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:51 PM EST

                Well CAMEO7, you still ignored my last post, only two posts above yours. WHY didn't the republicans, FOX news, or Romney do ANYTHING if you're right. They left it to you ????? No, they tend to ignore stupidity, thus, they ignore you, and those like you.

                Oh, and we're whining???? REMEMBER, WE WON THE ELECTION. WE HAVE NOTHING TO WHINE ABOUT.

                • 3 votes
                #3.32 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:58 PM EST

                trump is an idoit but has a loyal following of idoits

                • 2 votes
                #3.33 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:00 PM EST

                Never shopped at Macy's but if they stand up to this jack a and maintain the relationship with Trump I will. I am getting really tired of having my opinion handed to me by people and being told that we infringe on their rights or they want to bully someone. Don't cave in Macy's

                Amen! Left winged extremism is becoming very dangerous! If you don't agree with them, they will use slander and harrassment (bully tactics) to destroy you. Evil comes in many forms!

                • 1 vote
                #3.34 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:52 AM EST
                Reply

                Trump is so yesterday. rich bully with no class.

                • 56 votes
                #4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:48 AM EST

                sugar ookie

                But don't you wish you had what he has?

                • 9 votes
                #4.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:15 PM EST

                Jean, is that what drives you? Money? I wouldn't want his life for love NOR money. He can have it, and those of you who envy him can dream on.

                :;; But don't you wish you had what he has?

                • 17 votes
                #4.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:39 PM EST

                The whole issue is jealousy because you havent earned his money, so he is an evil money maker. ALL of you Libs are the same, you dont have it but expect it to be handed to you. Earn it or stfu.

                • 21 votes
                #4.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:55 PM EST

                You can add John Schnatter(Papa Johns) along that list as well. I believe in freedom of speech, and they can say and do what they want, but so can, and I for one will be boycotting both Macy's & Papa Johns.

                • 23 votes
                #4.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:13 PM EST

                Mr Accountability - no jealousy here. He has nothing I want. I have enough money and the only thing Trump proves is "all the money in the world can't buy class." He's a tiny little irrelevant person who is making noise to try to make people believe he's something. He isn't. Oh, but I hear he will be filing for his 4th bankruptcy soon!

                • 15 votes
                #4.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:23 PM EST

                -just delete-

                • 1 vote
                #4.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:25 PM EST

                Then why all of the ruckus and everyone has all of their girdles out of place -and who cares what Cher thinks anyway? Talk about yesterdays news -that women might as well be put out to pasture as they say -not even relevant -trying to stay current -at least Trump does give to charities -what has Cher done ? or any other Liberals when it comes to giving besides their criticism ? And while I do not think Trump was doing right on The Birther issue -why did Oboma not cough up his transcripts for 5 Million Dollars for Charity -Make Trump eat it -Just asking ?

                • 6 votes
                #4.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:52 PM EST

                Laura I will negate your boycott of Papa John's and start buying from there, I usually get LaRosa's.

                • 3 votes
                #4.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:54 PM EST

                i dont even know what papa john did but im gonna buy more of his pizzas. and more chick fila because i like people who arent politically correct as to not make all you whiney bitches mad.

                • 10 votes
                #4.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:16 PM EST

                you just sound like a dbag

                • 3 votes
                #4.10 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:48 PM EST

                OK so you won. Big deal. What has you party done over the past 4 years that has helped the country? Donald Trump at least has the guts to ask the hard questions you all believe God Obama is to great to be asked! Get your head out of his backside and see that damage he has done to "his people" who he promised change to. Just wait and see how much this wonderful election is going to cost you on your paycheck!!

                t 4 years

                • 6 votes
                #4.11 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:59 PM EST

                Excuse me, but do you know Trump personally? I don't, so I cannot say exactly what he is like, but you say he's a bully...and your say he has no class...but you won't say it to his face, just behind the safety of a screen. A)If he is indeed a bully not the proper way to confront and get the action changed B)If he isn't...I believe you owe an apology.

                • 1 vote
                #4.12 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:18 PM EST

                One thing about trump that seems to bother must of you Morons is the fact he has money and you dont. He didnt live on welfare and handouts. Yes he is a jerk, but no one has the right to demand he be fired from Macy's. A bunch of little to do Housewifes demanded that Ellen be replaced at JCP. Where in the sam hill to you Morons get off demanding anything. If you dont like it just dont go there. Hang out at your LOCAL WALMART!!!!!!!

                • 2 votes
                #4.13 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:41 PM EST

                If ego were gold Trump would be at the top of the Forbes 400 list of richest people, not toward the bottom of the list. Please don't take the Egomeister away.

                I have got to get some of his perfume--er, cologne--because it must be powerful stuff to overcome the number one stinker in business.

                • 1 vote
                #4.14 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:15 AM EST
                Reply

                Cutting up a credit card does not eliminate your account. You have to close out your account and your credit score will be lowered.

                As far as the ad, who cares? I don't watch tv. Those TV and commercial followers are the ones who do the impulsive buying. And if you are so influenced by a TV advertisement, then I feel sorry for you. Control your impulsive buying and prepare a list of items for your holiday purchases.

                I just hope the employees at Macy's can get a holiday bonus if they are spending millions of dollars to advertise with celebrity stars.

                • 11 votes
                Reply#5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:49 AM EST

                Actually, having too much credit is as bad as too little. Yes, cutting up your card does not eliminate your debt, but it keeps you from incurring any more with that merchant.

                IF they are smart, they say goodbye to the idiot with the squirrel on his head that doesn't think anybody knows it is not his real hair.

                • 21 votes
                #5.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:36 AM EST

                I'm glad I don't have a Macy's card to even bother cutting up. And like Starderup stated, too much debt is just as bad as too little. I believe cutting up the Macy's card is more symbolic than anything else. Nevertheless, for those of you who are financially-savvy enough to know....it actually looks worse to have a retail credit card on your account. Credit agencies do not respect them and do not give much leverage for them. It's better to have a credit card with a major bank (e.g. USAA Mastercard). Anyone can get a retail credit card and anyone who has them is basically saying, "I am too reckless in my spending to just save the money then buy what I want." If you have to charge for clothes, you probably can't afford to pay the card off. Credit cards are designed to keep us in debt. Retail cards also say that an individual most likely has a shopping habit. I don't think the Credit agencies will love that when they are looking at your credit report and determining if someone should give you a mortgage or car loan.

                Donald Trump is a douchebag. And as so many others have stated, I have the freedom of speech to speak out against Donald Chump by NOT patronizing Macy's. If they don't pull the ad, Macy's will NOT see my dollars for Black Thursday, Friday or any other day. There are too many other stores (online and brick) that will be MORE than happy to see my dollars...whether I am in "that" group or not, money is still green last time I checked and someone out there realizes that because they aren't completely ignorant. I'm SO over the racism and I'm glad to see our country finally standing up against it.

                I don't understand racism because more often than not, one race did nothing to the other for them to not like them....so you just hate me because I happen to have brown skin. Really?! Do you see how stupid that sounds? Get a life. Racism is silly and pointless and needs to end and if our country continues to move in the direction in which it has been lately, racism and other forms of bigotry will be a thing of a past soon enough. I think people need to start to see that racism, sexism and other forms of discrimination will not be tolerated. Once people see that, then they will have no choice but to GROW UP and realize there is only ONE race...THE HUMAN RACE!

                • 18 votes
                #5.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:56 AM EST

                Macy Customers have no need to cancel their credit cards; they just wont use them until Macy's correct matters. If Macy's decide to keep the ad, then we won't shop there. The best way to make a difference is "hitting Macy's in the pocket" They will dump Trump like a hot potatoe if this situation affects their financial bottom line. Trump needs to brought down a peg or two...too full of himself.

                • 12 votes
                #5.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:29 PM EST

                Im sure Macy's isnt going to worry about loosing some of their low end customers.

                • 18 votes
                #5.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:02 PM EST

                No unfortunately the workers do not get a bonus, they save that for all the CEO's. I have a very good friend who has been working their for over 12yrs and not once have they every recd a bonus.

                • 7 votes
                #5.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:17 PM EST

                That's what Bank of America thought in all their arrogance mister burns. The chief prick in charge at BofA said they would never rescind the $5. charge under any condition, and after tens of thousands of "low end" customers kindly said, "then go fly a kite jerko", he immediately went back on his statement and cancelled the charge. Somehow I see Macy's doing the same thing. Get rid of donald duck trump, or pay the piper.

                • 9 votes
                #5.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:21 PM EST

                annette- closing the account lowers your credit score for a very short time. You can get the score back within 3 months if you use the rest of your credit wisely.

                • 2 votes
                #5.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:24 PM EST

                laura at least macys gives regular raises. i know a girl whos been there for a long time and she makes around $20/hr. if i want a raise i have to go out line up another job and threaten to quit to get a raise.

                • 1 vote
                #5.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:22 PM EST

                Alex,

                You couldnt be more wrong. Low end customers actually cost banks money. They dont make sh%$ off them. Part of the $5 fee was to get rid of the customers that were costing them money. But the middle class and upper middle class also said F you to BofA. And thats why they got rid of it.

                • 3 votes
                #5.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:42 PM EST

                Macy's , Give employees a bonus? Now that is a laugh!

                • 1 vote
                #5.10 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:05 PM EST

                But don't you wish you had what he has?

                What would that be? Multiple bankrupcies, land fruad deals???? A lot of ex-wives collecting a portion of his income?

                The man is a baffoon. While his name might be on building, his name ISN'T on the ownership papers.

                  #5.11 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:47 AM EST

                  Everyone dropped the Macy's card years ago as they take standard Visa and MC. Of course many stopped going to their overpriced stores years ago. they need a baffoon like Trump to get attention.

                    #5.12 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:50 AM EST
                    Reply
                    Comment author avatarMike Thomasvia Facebook

                    To boycott Macy's because of Donald is as foolish as the folks that boycotted JC Penney because of Ellen. Political bullying is so unnecessary. Just don't buy Donald's products or go to his casino or watch his shows. Why bring a third party into the fray.

                    • 20 votes
                    #6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:49 AM EST

                    -Because the 3rd party is an enabler - Boycotting trolls only affects them personally -

                    The Liquor store that sells the alcoholic whiskey by the case needs to be

                    put down hard.

                    • 7 votes
                    #6.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:13 PM EST

                    But Mike, that would be the logical thing for people to do, and the few of us who actually use logic realize that it's a dying characteristic in the human race. People who live their lives based solely on emotion (and emotional reactions to politics which they apply to non-political entities, especially) tend to be the types who would sign this "petition". There's not a business in the world that can please the masses. They'll always support a person, an ideal, a "whatever" that some people don't like. Period. It's called free enterprise. I'm no fan of Donald Trump, but people like Carusone and those of his ilk bother me more. If you don't like it, don't support it. Trying to force people/companies/etc to change so that you don't have to feel offended (poor wittle babies) is so childish. I hope Macy's continues to tell them to shove it!

                    If you want to choose to withhold your money from a specific retailer or service company based upon your beliefs, great, more power to you! But trying to force your opinion on the rest of the nation and everyone in between is just ridiculous (and yes, that's what Carusone is trying to do--to make Macy's fit HIS ideal, regardless of the opinions and consumer $s of those who aren't so thin-skinned and offended by everything). I'm so sick of hearing about all these people who are "offended" by every tiny little thing, and expect anything that offends them to disappear. "Victims", all of them. Grow up--the world doesn't revolve around you!

                    • 14 votes
                    #6.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:20 PM EST

                    I believe Donald has been forcing his opinions on us through Twitter and any other Media who will give him attention. Why do we not have the same right? BTW,Calling for a Revolution i is not "TINY".

                    • 14 votes
                    #6.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:58 PM EST

                    The people who called for boycotting JC Penney's did so on the basis of the fact they used a gay person in their ads. That is a far call from indirectly condoning and supporting someone who advocates treason in the form of revolution against the government. As a "socially responsible" company, Macy's should change their ad campaign to "Let's overthrow the government. Trump will lead the way!" :)

                    • 12 votes
                    #6.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:13 PM EST

                    Hey cncernd ... no one can force opinions on anyone else unless they let them. If you don't want to get the Tweets, don't follow them! I'm sure there are just as many people who would boycott Macy's for dropping Trump as those who would from continuing the relationship. It's silliness! If you don't like something, avoid it! Don't force your opinions on others ... we all have freedom to choose!

                    • 6 votes
                    #6.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:15 PM EST

                    Yeah, Its symbolic.

                      #6.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:33 PM EST

                      Ignorant, bigoted homophobes calling for the boycott of a perfectly decent human being is NOT the same as a fed-up public calling for the boycott of a racist, greedy, economy-ruining psychopath who won't stop running his big stupid mouth. Please tell me you see the difference.

                      • 10 votes
                      #6.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:35 PM EST

                      mmr, if you had superior reasoning skills as you claim, you would understand why you might attack the retailer rather than the supplier. Macy's is a much bigger brand. A small percentage of customers will buy, or even care and Trumps crappy ties, but attcking the Macy's brand has an effect on all brands the store carries. It may not seem fair, but its the best approach to accomplishing your goal right or wrong.

                      • 5 votes
                      #6.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:40 PM EST

                      Only when it suits you mike thomas, right ? Typical ignorant response. Whoever is in your ads, is a direct reflection on your store and on your sales. I thought even a second grader could figure that part out, but apparently you have not figured it out.

                      • 5 votes
                      #6.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:23 PM EST

                      Well said, Mike. Just don't buy the TRUMP brand if you don't like him. If his stuff doesn't sell, then they'll remove it.

                      • 2 votes
                      #6.10 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:41 PM EST

                      I don't have a Macys card because I don't use credit cards unless it is absolutely necessary. However, I usually shop at Macy's for Christmas and I will not shop there if they keep Donald Trump in their commercial. This man spewed so much hatred about the President of the United States that he really should be tried for treason. It is very clear that his motives are clearly racist. I didn't like Bush but I would never say anything like the things Donald said about Obama. Freedom is speech is fine but urging people to take arms and start a revolution against the President of the United State should be considered treason.

                      As consumers, we have the right to chose where we want to spend out money and we have the right not shop at a store who does business with someone like Trump.

                      • 10 votes
                      #6.11 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:14 PM EST

                      "Also- I wouldn't worry about it Macy's- those leading this boycott shop at wal-mart for their clothes anyway."

                      Most liberals are educated people who are actually informed about politics. The liberals kicked butt in this election and will continue to do it in the future. The GOP is like the Roman Empire, falling into ruins, their base is dying off and the new generation of voters are open minded Americans who vote their conscience and not their bias.

                      I live in rural Pennsylvania in a town where most of the residents are white and on some sort of disability or welfare and almost 100% of them voted Republican. I own a small store and I actually took a sample of about 100 of my customers. I took statistics in college and I conducted the study out of curiosity. They actually believed the hatred spewed by Trump and Fox News.

                      • 5 votes
                      #6.12 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:23 PM EST

                      preecededbynone must be talking about obama.

                        #6.13 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:26 PM EST

                        Since when is Media Matters a "watchdog agency"? Their cozy relationship with (and dishonest "reporting" for) Obama was revealed long ago. As for bullying - isn't that exactly what they're doing? They don't like Trump's politics, so they try to shout him down. People who live in glass houses ........

                        • 3 votes
                        #6.14 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:54 PM EST

                        SteveJ-1209086

                        mmr, if you had superior reasoning skills as you claim, you would understand why you might attack the retailer rather than the supplier. Macy's is a much bigger brand. A small percentage of customers will buy, or even care and Trumps crappy ties, but attcking the Macy's brand has an effect on all brands the store carries. It may not seem fair, but its the best approach to accomplishing your goal right or wrong.

                        You obviously misread everything I wrote, buddy. So much for your "superior reasoning skills". My point was simple: boycott stuff if you want, but don't try to make every single company you don't agree with change everything because you're "offended." I said nothing about attacking suppliers vs. retailers, etc. Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit... EYE ROLL

                        • 1 vote
                        #6.15 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:51 PM EST

                        Ruth-2440013

                        I don't have a Macys card because I don't use credit cards unless it is absolutely necessary. However, I usually shop at Macy's for Christmas and I will not shop there if they keep Donald Trump in their commercial. This man spewed so much hatred about the President of the United States that he really should be tried for treason. It is very clear that his motives are clearly racist. I didn't like Bush but I would never say anything like the things Donald said about Obama. Freedom is speech is fine but urging people to take arms and start a revolution against the President of the United State should be considered treason.

                        As consumers, we have the right to chose where we want to spend out money and we have the right not shop at a store who does business with someone like Trump.

                        He should "be tried for treason"??? LMAO!!!!!! You obviously have no love for freedom (or for the first amendment). There are a lot of people who have said a lot of nasty things about many different sitting Presidents, but none of it was treasonous. The fact that you think that someone should face criminal penalties just because you don't like what they have to say says a lot about you (and it's not flattering). You're right, as a consumer, you absolutely should choose where your money goes! But you don't get to choose a new definition for "traitor" based upon the fact that you don't like what someone has to say. Urging (and completing) a revolution is exactly what our founding fathers did, by the way. Incidentally, it took more than one Tweet from a man who isn't respected by most people in order to make it happen.

                        I also especially love your reference to racism. Of course that's the only reason anyone would speak out against Obama, right? Puh-lease. The whole "cry racism" thing is getting really old, and it's as pathetic as the people who keep harping on Obama not producing his school transcripts, "real" BC, etc.

                        (I'm sure you'll read this as some sort of "defense" and "agreement" with Trump. It's not, but someone who thinks that the 1st Amendment should only apply when they agree with what's being said, and someone who thinks that phantom racism is why people don't agree with Obama's political stance, probably wouldn't be able to discern the difference.)

                        • 1 vote
                        #6.16 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:06 PM EST
                        Reply

                        If you disagree with Trump, then don't buy his line of clothes. He was stating his political opinion.

                        It's sickening to see that if a company doesn't want to pay for abortion or birth control- too bad- shut up and pay and if you speak out democrats try to boycott you.

                        If you speak up about your political opinions- democrats try to boycott you.

                        If someone speaks out for Obama or gay marriage or a political opinion and republicans try to boycott... Lord have mercy! They are such bigots and racists!!

                        It's a disgusting double standard and it's leading to the ruin of our nation...

                        Also- I wouldn't worry about it Macy's- those leading this boycott shop at wal-mart for their clothes anyway.

                        • 13 votes
                        #7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:51 AM EST

                        And they would probably use their welfare debit card instead of a macy's card anyway.

                        • 12 votes
                        #7.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:57 AM EST

                        If someone speaks out for Obama or gay marriage or a political opinion and republicans try to boycott... Lord have mercy! They are such bigots and racists!!

                        Well, when someone can actually voice a rational argument against marriage equality, then maybe they won't be called bigots.

                        • 19 votes
                        #7.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:30 AM EST

                        How about this Gay people are a afront to my religion No one asked you to berning Gays into this discussion Trumph is the subject As far as anyone knows he is not gay

                        • 1 vote
                        #7.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:34 AM EST

                        Skalamoosh said:

                        Also- I wouldn't worry about it Macy's- those leading this boycott shop at wal-mart for their clothes anyway.

                        And they would probably use their welfare debit card instead of a macy's card anyway.

                        What an ignorant comment to make. Not every Liberal lives off of welfare, is undeducated and wants everyone to take care of them. If your party stopped shoving Jesus down our throats, against Gay Marriage, minorities and women you would have won the election!

                        I am a liberal that has worked from the age of 14. Put myself through college. My home is paid off and so are my cars. NO credit card debt. I have never received any financial help from the government or anyone for that matter. No student loans, not even unemployment.

                        Just like all Republicans are not successful.. In fact, I know of many that are collecting welfare, walked out of their homes after they borrowed against it and couldn't afford it and just walked away. So, there is bad in every group. Do not generalize!

                        I do however, do not mine sharing what I make with those in need. God knows we can't depend on the majority of rich people to help the needy. They haven't a clue and frankly don't care how the other half lives.

                        • 27 votes
                        #7.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:48 AM EST

                        How about this Gay people are a afront to my religion

                        Again, I ask for a rational argument. Eating pork is an afront to many Jews and Muslims, yet we don't ban it. Religion has no business driving public policy.

                        Try again.

                        • 24 votes
                        #7.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:05 PM EST

                        Skalamoosh said

                        So, there is bad in every group. Do not generalize!... God knows we can't depend on the majority of rich people to help the needy. They haven't a clue and frankly don't care how the other half lives.

                        You should follow your own advice.

                        • 4 votes
                        #7.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:18 PM EST

                        How about this Gay people are a afront to my religion .

                        And your religion is a front to many people. Shrug. How about people start realizing that the world is full of all kinds, and you don't have to join their ways? Don't like gay people? Don't enter a gay relationship. Don't like Christians? Don't join a church. See how easy that is?

                        • 13 votes
                        #7.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:01 PM EST

                        The rich contribute big dollars to help the poor. They endow universities and hospitals with huge sums of money. Who do you think pays taxes to fund the government programs, the poor? The top ten percent pay the lion's share of taxes in America, but our government doesn't think it's enough. They already spend much more than they take in. That's why the next generation will be paying the money back for years.

                        This lockjaw who wants to boycott Macy's because of Donald Trump should throw his influence toward a more productive outlet. Why not use the money and time to help someone in need? I know it won't get the headlines, but it will have real meaning.

                        I shop where I want and I don't care who they have in their commercials.

                        • 8 votes
                        #7.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:17 PM EST

                        I have no problem with Trump being a nutjob who flips out about the whole Democrat versus Republican stuff. I do have a problem with Trump advocating treason.

                        • 12 votes
                        #7.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:15 PM EST

                        cf - did you ever stop to think that Trump likes the attention! Has he REALLY committed treason?!? I think he likes the attention and goes out on his tirades for just that reason. Even other celebs have called him to "shut up"! I believe he thrives on this issue ... and continuing the debate will only cause him to add more fuel to the fire!

                        • 5 votes
                        #7.10 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:22 PM EST

                        Diamond you are so correct.. Most of these people don't know how to think or calculate on their own.. Trump is a great man and has done much for the poor and others...We have a mind/set in this country today that is making things much worse.

                        Trump is a great man and people need to back off...I pay cash, and Macy's best think about the people that will go away from them because of this petition. Macy's won't feel too good when these dead beats stop making their payments..

                        • 5 votes
                        #7.11 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:32 PM EST

                        Diamond you are just repeating what fox news told you. The top ten percent pay no taxes you friggin moron. What kind of idiot believes the rich pay taxes. And yet there are sicko morons like you spreading the myth like its gospel. The rich hang on to their money and help nobody, for the most part. Sure there are exceptions, but very few. The middle class pays the brunt of the tax bill, and takes all the hits. So stop with your bloody rubbish about the rich are helping the whole world. What a laughable joke that comment is. Why don't the top corporations pay taxes since you seem to know so much diamond ? Oops, there goes your stupid theory, right out the window. Stop listening to the paid morons like sean hannity, silly billy o'reilly and all the other paid prostitutes.

                        • 8 votes
                        #7.12 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:28 PM EST

                        Jean - Trump IS NOT a great man. He is a lowlife who would knife his own children for a dollar. He cheated his friends on condos in Chicago. Had them sign pre-construction contracts then voided them and raised the price.

                        He is a mangy little man who ignorant people look up to. People who think because he makes money he is somehow special. There are many millionaires in this country who donate money and time to those less fortunate. They just don't mouth off about it. They have class and integrity - something all the money in the world can't buy Trump. He will always be gutter trash.

                        I don't use a Macy's care - use American Express. However I will be using it elsewhere these holidays. I will NOT support a store where Trump has any involvement.

                        • 9 votes
                        #7.13 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:40 PM EST

                        It seems funny to me that Trump is chastised for the birth and school BUT Obama and his minions can shout from the roof top about some ones taxes. Must be the old do as I say and not as I do.

                        • 2 votes
                        #7.14 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:06 PM EST

                        Macy's is a dying operation. the same items can be found cheaper in other stores. Their days are long over...just like Trump.

                          #7.15 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:43 AM EST
                          Reply

                          I signed the petition. I have shopped at Macy's for years and have a Macy's credit card. If Macy's doesn't cut its ties to Donald Trump then I will cut my ties to Macy's. They should not be associating themselves with Trump, who has become a political lightning rod. Corporate America needs to stay far away from politics.

                          • 17 votes
                          Reply#8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:52 AM EST

                          There are plenty of companies who associate themselves with "political lightening rods". Do you boycott all of them on principle, or just Macy's because someone who looks for things to be offended by (Carusone) started a petition? Be honest, did the commercial truly offend you before this whole "cut-up-your-card petition" came out and started their media campaign?

                          So if you have a Macy's card and shopped there before, we must assume that you have supported politically and ideologically every single celebrity designer, "tradidtional" designer, etc., as well as garments and products made mostly outside the US, sometimes using child labor and sweatshops, etc.?

                          • 8 votes
                          #8.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:29 PM EST

                          Once I see Donald Trump endorse something, I will run the other way, as is my right. I also have the right to let Macy*s know my personal policy. I also won't eat at Chik Fil A or Papa Johns. No company is entitled to my money. I am free to shop where I wish. That is the beauty of America.

                          Those calling for the end of the petition are trying to infringe on free speech. The petition is our way of letting retailers know that a Donald Trump association will hurt their business. Better that they hear us than we quietly stop shopping there without giving a reason. We are giving them a chance to get our business back.

                          As for liberals having welfare cards and shopping at Walmart, weren't we being branded as out of touch elites not too long ago (ask SP about that)? I guess we are too educated yet not smart enough to have jobs, if you listen to the GOP. Luckily, reasonable people don't listen to the GOP ;)

                          • 18 votes
                          #8.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:21 PM EST

                          So what? You will still have to pay your bill. Once they get your money they do not really care if you cut up the card. Stupid democrat....trying to bully everybody into thinking your way. Your way stinks so please just go away and live your life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                          • 8 votes
                          #8.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:22 PM EST

                          Liz you are right.. I never understood how people live on credit cards.. They are good somethings, but we pay cash.. Trump is great, but you can't tell a Democrat that.. They sound like what is running the Country today.. I still have a brain and will use it.

                          • 6 votes
                          #8.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:35 PM EST

                          I believe that would be trump..trying to bully people to think his way. This man has no class. He diminishes himself daily; So, Liz because you are a republican, you go along with Trump's rantings, probably Rush's as well. He has no respect for President Obama and has tried hard to make him illigimitate and instead, he is the one that comes off as the phoney. The masses will force Macy's to dump him. That's what masses of people are; they are a force to be reckoned with.

                          • 9 votes
                          #8.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:39 PM EST

                          Jean- I still have a brain and will use it. Wow! Your posts indicate exactly the opposite!

                          We have a wonderful President who is leading the country today. Pity the low information people (guess who) don't have enough sense to realize that. But, they think Trump is great so no explanation is needed!

                          • 6 votes
                          #8.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:42 PM EST

                          Masses of people can also be refered to as a mob

                          • 1 vote
                          #8.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:17 PM EST

                          Hey Alex are you serious? Have they Brainwashed you to the point were you do not realize the Top 10 percent of wage earners pay almost 90 percent of the Taxes in this country and we should Thank them- not scorn them -as you and others have been taught to do -were where you brought up -take them away and who will feed this country and invest in it -produce in it -the 47 % percenters -I think not -wake up and smell the debt train because it is coming fast and furious !

                          • 4 votes
                          #8.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:18 PM EST

                          It's sickening to see that if a company doesn't want to pay for abortion or birth control- too bad- shut up and pay

                          Just don't try and stop the male enhancement payments or you will really get pissed.

                            #8.9 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:48 AM EST
                            Reply

                            So what about Obummer's BC and Transcript?

                            Hawaii doesn't know anything about him being born there and he won't show his transcripts. The one he posted was pretty lame, got a few things wrong. Not the best forgery.

                            Why does he have a Connecticut SSN if he's born in Hawaii? Oh well nothing to see here I guess.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:54 AM EST

                            Seriously?

                            You're still beating that poor horse? It's dead! The horse is dead!

                            This story is about Trump and Macy's. Do you actually have anything thoughtful to add to this discussion?

                            • 19 votes
                            #9.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:59 AM EST

                            bf: And we have identified another case of rectal-cranial inversion. These issues were de-bunked numerous times and on so many levels. Face it, since you have a teminal case of rectal-cranial inversion, you could have been present at the president's birth in Hawaii and still would not acknowledge it.

                            There is a slim chance at a cure for the condition, but you will need to stop watching SUX NEWS and listening to morons like Trump, Rush Laimbrain and the Becker-head.. otherwise it's all over but the burial.

                            • 22 votes
                            #9.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:06 PM EST

                            What about Fromney who moved about like a nomad and he's Mormon? Who is Mormon? I have never met anyone who willingly admitted to being Mormon so I don't know much about it. Fromney lied so much that no one knew if he was rooting for President Obama or against him. And that's right. I said PRESIDENT OBAMA. You can say what you want but the Repubs have been crying about PRESIDENT OBAMA's bc, religious preference, etc. for YEARS and AMERICA HAS SPOKEN. THE MAN WHO IS MEANT TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE FREE WORLD IS PRESIDENT AGAIN.

                            • 12 votes
                            #9.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:08 PM EST

                            Congress certified Obama's presidency. The Supreme Court has weighed in. People who STILL believe that President Obama does not meet the requirements to be president need to just move to some bunker on a deserted island, because obviously the conspiracy is SOOOO deep that it permeates all branches of government, and yet SOOOO well hidden that only these lunatics in their tinfoil hats are aware of the REAL truth.

                            • 17 votes
                            #9.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:38 PM EST

                            Does being silly come naturally to you or do you have to work at it? Even the wingnuts in the republican party acknowledge that the birther garbage is just that, garbage. As for the Transcript he should turn it over, the very day after Romney turns over his tax returns. I still want to see them, and they are still more relevant than the President's college transcripts.

                            • 14 votes
                            #9.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:22 PM EST

                            You need to get a life, buddy. If you don't think that Homeland Security did the most intense vetting of President Obama prior to his even being allowed to walk in to the Congress building as a senator, much less be given the nuclear keys and all the security perks that go with being the Commander in Chief then you truly ARE a lunatic. But then, from your various posts, I'm pretty sure that you spend most of your life watching/listening to the far-right-fringe media echo chamber that has taken over the republican party, making it so far outside the mainstream of America that it is soon going to die the natural death that it deserves. That's what you get when you allow those whose only concern is how high they can get their ratings to take control...

                            • 12 votes
                            #9.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:14 PM EST

                            He just won his second term in Office ,you need to move on or life will pass you by

                            • 7 votes
                            #9.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:19 PM EST

                            bf- I was born in Rome, NY but didn't get my ss card until I was 16 years of age and living in Ohio. It works that way.

                            • 7 votes
                            #9.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:49 PM EST

                            blueunicorn - and, the Republican governor of Hawaii says the birth certificate is real. There is at least one teeny tiny moron on every site and we clearly have one here going on about the birth certificate and transcripts. Should we bring up Romney's taxes??????

                            • 5 votes
                            #9.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:45 PM EST
                            Reply

                            I know it was an honest mistake but you left out the P in President Obama

                            "the ad was a "clever twist" on Trump's notoriety for casting doubt on whether resident Obama's birth certificate and college transcript were real."

                            No doubt the loose wing nuts will try to make hay out of this but let them try the country has spoken about it's feelings on the T'Baggers.

                            • 10 votes
                            Reply#10 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:56 AM EST

                            Just read the Book " Obama's America" it will tell you every thing about him .

                            And no it is not a birther book -it states he was born in Hawaii so be brave Liberals -read the biography on your hero.

                            • 1 vote
                            #10.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:24 PM EST

                            Obama's America may not be factual. I can say I was born any where but If asked for a document of proof I would need to show it to back that up. Why cant Mr Obama do the same?????

                              #10.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:32 PM EST

                              Nancy-753928

                              don h.-4040032

                              Hope you two enjoy Canada. It's where we have decided to dump errrrr send our craziest wing nuts. SORRY CANADA!!!!!!

                              • 1 vote
                              #10.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:47 PM EST
                              Reply

                              Frankly, I think the add is funny, but I dislike Trump (and have disliked him longer than this political season) and like to stir the pot so I voted yes.

                              • 9 votes
                              Reply#11 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:57 AM EST

                              Carusone is an idiot and the people that aledgidly signed the petition are "sheeple". Please do cut up those cards - we don't need idiots shopping at Macy's! Thin the heard!

                              • 9 votes
                              Reply#12 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:59 AM EST

                              Using the word "sheeple" is the first indication of a poor argument.

                              • 14 votes
                              #12.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:06 PM EST

                              Macys needs "idiots" money just as much as yours to stay in business . There are not many companies that can stay in business catering solely to the 1%. Being a mass retailer means they have to listen to the pesky 47%

                              • 9 votes
                              #12.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:24 PM EST

                              And what the hell is "aledgidly"?

                              • 6 votes
                              #12.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:51 PM EST

                              Has anyone seen what Macy's stock is doing?

                                #12.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:28 PM EST

                                Aledgidly is republican spelling, you know, kind of like the fuzzy bush math, where nothing adds up. It's very easy to pick out an ignorant republican posts, so few of them can spell.

                                • 5 votes
                                #12.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:34 PM EST

                                I also assume you meant 'thin the herd'? And the republicans want to cut funding for education!!

                                • 2 votes
                                #12.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:52 PM EST
                                Reply

                                Sorry Angelo, but in this one you're the dick.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#13 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:06 AM EST

                                If Macy's doesn't cut its ties to Donald Trump, over half-a-million signers of an online petition will be urged to cut up their Macy's store credit card

                                Be Urged? For god sakes people...think for yourselves...just because someone shouts out a cause you all have to act like sheep.

                                • 12 votes
                                Reply#14 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:09 AM EST

                                This is hillarious. Look at one person has done to get people stirred up - and over Donald Trump? Everyone has the right to make their own decision on what to buy, where to buy it, or cut up their card. I have shopped at Macy's (when they had a good sale) but never bought Trump brand name anything. My choice.

                                • 3 votes
                                #14.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:23 PM EST
                                Reply

                                Stupidest thing I have heard (today) I don't like Donald Trump so I don't buy his brand. Freedom of Speech Angelo, sadly you were allowed to have it.

                                • 4 votes
                                Reply#15 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:26 AM EST

                                I don't understand why you brought up Freedom of Speech? Are you referring to the 1st Amendment?

                                Because that has nothing to do with this story.

                                • 9 votes
                                #15.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:07 PM EST

                                The Constitution and the Bible , also known as the Republican Buffet . They can pick and choose what they want and in the end all we are left with is a pile of shyte

                                • 9 votes
                                #15.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:32 PM EST
                                Reply

                                If Macy's does the right thing and tells these bullies to go cr*p in a bucket, I for one will make a point of spending MORE money at Macy's.

                                • 11 votes
                                Reply#16 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:26 AM EST

                                And go deeper into debt than you probably already are....LOL. Go ahead. I will laugh my way to a healthy retirement as you continue to struggle to keep your home, car, etc. SMH. #frigginHILARIOUS!

                                • 5 votes
                                #16.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:11 PM EST

                                And here's another bully -- JaevisMom! Way to make a complete leap there! I guarantee that you don't even *know* mickymac, much less what his/her financial situation is. So because you don't like what someone has to say, you fire back with made-up assumptions in a personal attack? That's really convincing... In circles where people actually use their brains, that's called an ad hominem attack, and is a sure sign that you have no real argument, nor anything worthwhile to say.

                                • 7 votes
                                #16.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:35 PM EST

                                And that is why I said PROBABLY! Learn how to read and critically THINK before you try to throw big words at me...SMH. Last time I checked, Americans learn how to think critically in elementary school. But, NO, you're better than me because you know what "ad hominem" means. If I wanted to REALLY perform that action, my comment would have been about as ruthless as the "conservatives" on here that have put me in "that" group and assume I have a welfare card to spend....all on one page. Compared to all the ugly comments I have read about "my" group and myself, I don't think my comment was that bad.

                                • 8 votes
                                #16.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:08 PM EST

                                JaevisMom - Let me get this straight. You are preaching the virtue of not going into debt, while at the same time celebrating the re-election of Barack Obama??? The very man who has saddled this country with a mountain of debt we will not pay off in several lifetimes, if at all?

                                And you wonder why we think Liberals should not be allowed anywhere near the country's checkbook?

                                Now, I'm off to buy me some Trump ties.

                                • 6 votes
                                #16.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:15 PM EST

                                The debt crisis began WAY before President Obama and while everyone looks to our President to bail them out...they might want to take a cold, hard look at how they played a role in this mess the country is in. No one told anyone to buy homes they cannot afford. That's called GREED. My husband and I chose to LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS and wait until we could afford a regular home loan and we're both veterans who don't even need to try to save up money to put money down. We could have easily followed with the pack and opted for an ARM or some crazy other loan to get in a too big house that we wouldn't be able to afford in 10 years once the rates went up.

                                Imagine how relieved we were when we watched the housing bubble burst and we weren't a part of the chaos.

                                But, no, let's continue to blame President Obama because he somehow forced us to get ourselves into our own debt. Now that everyone (including the idiot banks that allowed these loans) are looking for a bailout, they are yelling at our President like a temperamental three year old.

                                Own up, Americans, and help yourself to get out of the debt you created for yourself. Bring our troops home and let those countries defend themselves so America can put more money BACK into America. And, honestly, I wouldn't love it...but I wouldn't mind if taxes were raised because I believe EVERYONE deserves an EXCELLENT quality of life in the World Power also know as America.

                                Why does this seem like only common sense to some of us...SMH. I totally don't get that. And I would have voted for Romney if he could tell me what his plan even was. His plan for our country changed every week until it became an area of grey. The last thing I heard was to "check his website" for his plan for our country. Why would I vote for someone who can't even talk about what they are going to do to help America get back on its feet? Romeny can't stand behind his beliefs...why should I?

                                I'll continue to save my money, a concept a lot of Americans know nothing about. Enjoy your Chump...I mean Trump...ties.

                                • 12 votes
                                #16.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:31 PM EST

                                And George Bush's two, not one, but two, unfunded wars did not add to the debt? And the crash of the economy under his watch did not add to the debt? And his leadership in destroying the Clinton surplus did not add to the debt? Really? uhh, okay.

                                • 12 votes
                                #16.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:40 PM EST

                                JaevisMom, maybe you should take some of those savings and invest in an Econ 101 class.

                                You are confusing personal debt with the National debt. Obama didn't tell me to go purchase the closet full of beautiful Donald Trump shirts I own, putting myself into hundreds of dollars of debt. That was my decision, and I'll deal with the consequences (although I do get a lot of compliments around the office so it's a fair trade off). He did however decide to spend a little over One Trilion Dollars more than he could afford, EVERY YEAR he has been President. I also have to deal with those consequences, as do my kids and future grandkids.

                                Now that I've explained it to you, can you see the irony of your position?

                                • 8 votes
                                #16.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:52 PM EST

                                Oh this is going to be fun. You ready to be schooled, Mickymac because you are now showing YOUR true educational background. Not only have I taken an ECO course but I am currently in a FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT COURSE for my MBA and my textbook reads verbatim of what I said in my earlier post. Trust me, unlike some people on here, I am not talking out of my behind. I have facts (and a great education) to back me up.

                                First of all, how smart are you to think that PERSONAL finance does not affect our economy overall? Oh, poor, little Mickymac...Mickey Mouse...or whatever you choose to go by b/c I frankly can't tell the difference....YOU might want to sign up for a FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND an ECO course ASAP and learn how AMERICANS' PERSONAL FINANCIAL choices help lead our economy into an economic crisis AKA recession. And all of this occurred (as I stated before) WAY before President Obama became POTUS.

                                Have you ever considered that our country is SPENDING MORE because President Obama is trying to FIX the mess, individuals like you who love to spend...got yourself into. And if you want to say I don't know you...you just said that you purchased a "closet full of beautiful Donald Trump shirts" which I am pretty sure are WAY over-priced and not cheap. Which means you like to spend on things that I, personally, wouldn't buy if someone paid me to IMHO..but that's neither here nor there.

                                Guess who has to print MORE money when the banks are going broke and are durn near bankrupt??? Wait for it...THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT also known as the FEDERAL RESERVE! And if the Federal Reserve didn't print MORE MONEY (which the Repubs call President Obama spending the money, thus, pushing us further into debt) then our economy would have completely crashed a long time ago. Kind of like if your kids/grandkids needed more money so THEY wouldn't go into debt and they came to you...now you (THE FEDERAL RESERVE aka grandparent) would hand them more money. But now YOU are going into debt to keep them from going into debt. Are you sitting up for this Econ lesson? Then when YOU go into debt, trying to save them from going into debt...they get to come back and yell at you for going into debt while you were only trying to help them. And the vicious cycle continues. Now YOU talk about irony...imagine the irony of that hypothetical situation. Think about it. What do you think President Obama is spending ALL this money? I see him in almost the same suit and shirts and ties almost every time he is anywhere and Mom jeans. I can't think that his mom jeans are that expensive. I, however, HIGHLY doubt he is buying Donald Trump shirts and ties.

                                My husband thinks that President Obama shouldn't have bailed out ANYONE and let the economy fail. Let people see what happens when there is NO ONE to bail them out.

                                Let everyone see our country go to complete ruin because the President refuses to allow the Federal Reserve to prop up our banks and housing market among other financial sectors. Then President Obama should have started from scratch. Our President is doing an EXCELLENT job and his plan makes a lot of sense if Congress will stop stonewalling and let my PRESIDENT do his job. If anyone else could do it better, he/she would be doing the job. Where is the respect, people, for the President of YOUR country? If he isn't qualified, then how did he get the job to begin with? Trust me, there is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes to qualify presidential candidates before we even get a chance to vote for our President.

                                Go back to school, Mickymac and take a Financial course about PERSONAL and NATIONAL finance then come try to hang out with the grownups again. Leave the Donald Chump shirts at home, though. They wouldn't make a good fashion statement at the cool grownups' table.

                                • 9 votes
                                #16.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:22 PM EST

                                Guess who has to print MORE money when the banks are going broke and are durn near bankrupt??? Wait for it...THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT also known as the FEDERAL RESERVE!

                                Go back to school, Mickymac and take a Financial course about PERSONAL and NATIONAL finance then come try to hang out with the grownups again.

                                Way to show your ignorance, JaevisMom. The federal reserve is no more federal than FedEx. It is owned by private banks and is a total separate entity from the federal government.

                                Before you come on here bragging about your knowledge of finance and making a total ass out of yourself maybe you better take a few more courses.

                                Thanks for playing. Better brush up on those textbooks. Now, back to the playground with you. The kiddies are waiting.

                                • 6 votes
                                #16.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:36 PM EST

                                I bet you don't spank your kids either. A free market should be free of the government. if the banks made bad decisions and so did folks getting in over their heads, they would quickly learn a difficult financial lesson. If my grandkids couldn't control their spending, I would let them suffer till their habits changed, then help them rebuild....isn't that real training that sticks. Just like you learned in the military, you have to be broken down to be rebuilt, otherwise nobody is pulling the same direction to get the mission done.

                                If you continue to ask the rich to give more but don't control spending, aren't you just setting things up for the same problems, but a little worse further down the line? What happens when you and your grandkids are broke, but nobody has changed their habits, what happens then?

                                Additionally, I don't care if anyone is democrat or republican, this country is seriously divided. Has anyone posted affirmation for any American on this site for exercising their rights? If you ran into an American in India or anywhere else on the globe, would you ask them if they were a democrat or republican before you talked with them? No, you would say hello and be truly glad to see them.

                                Neither repubs or dems have a clear mandate. True Obama won the election, but I would not call it a landslide when you look at a 1-2% difference in popular vote. If Romney had won it would have been the same kind a differential. We are divided. We need to look to our leaders to not only talk about Bipartisan politics but truly be bipartisan and American first. We I see an American, I see an American not a democrat or a repub, or a black, white or hispanic, gay or straight or whatever. We are all Americans and we all want this country to be great. We should welcome our differences and rejoice that we live in a country that allows us to have dissenting opinions. So lets stop the name calling and build each other up.

                                I don't like Donald Trump, I also don't like it when companies make it a political issue to support heavily politicized issues like gay rights or abortion. Macy's is a big supporter of gay rights. Does that mean conservatives should cut up their Macy's cards? Once again lets celebrate our differences and learn to live with them and grow stronger because of them.

                                Please no more hatred for those with different opinions.

                                As for an earlier post about gay rights. It is a persons right to do what they want. Our country was founded though on biblical principles whether we like that or not. When someone claims that the bible gives them a right to disagree with gay rights or abortion, isnt that really the footing the nation started on? They can believe that and we should allow them too. That seems like a fairly reasonable arguement to a gay lifestyle in their minds, but I imagine most folks who disagree with that stance would call it small minded and intolerant and condemn their belief in the bible. Thats what is great in this nation, we have the ability to believe differently.

                                Does anyone know under which presidency mortgage rules where loosened to allow less qualified buyers into the market? That is what I would like to know. I have heard it was under clinton, but maybe it was bush.

                                As I continue random thoughts, I heard that the U.S. has aborted 60 Million babies, doesnt that make you think? I wonder how much different the world would be if those people were around now. Do you know in some states if you kill a pregnant mother you get two counts of murder? Wouldn't that suggest a believe that life begins at inception? I don't know the answer, but these seem like crazy broken things to me, no matter what side of the issue you are on.

                                OK, I have truly rambled but I do have more to say to invigorate our thoughts (i might have mispelled that).

                                But, I will leave you with these questions, instead of calling for a revolt shouldn't we just vote folks out of office if we don't think they are doing their job?

                                Are we better off as a nation today or our we more broken? If we are more broken maybe we should look to ourselves first and not some voted in leader. They will change in time, but the American spirit will not.

                                • 5 votes
                                #16.10 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:09 PM EST

                                JaevisMom

                                And that is why I said PROBABLY! Learn how to read and critically THINK before you try to throw big words at me...SMH. Last time I checked, Americans learn how to think critically in elementary school. But, NO, you're better than me because you know what "ad hominem" means. If I wanted to REALLY perform that action, my comment would have been about as ruthless as the "conservatives" on here that have put me in "that" group and assume I have a welfare card to spend....all on one page. Compared to all the ugly comments I have read about "my" group and myself, I don't think my comment was that bad.

                                Like I said, "no real argument and nothing worthwhile to say". Your use of the word "probably" doesn't change a thing about your post, or mine. Your defense of your crappy comment is that "other people say things worse than you"? LMAO! *Someone* has trouble taking responsibility for their words... I never said I was better than you, but apparently your "victim mentality" told you I did. How sad.

                                (P.S. "Ad hominem" isn't a "big word" and truly, if you can't form an argument without pulling out ridiculous personal insults, you should think twice about what you have to say.)

                                • 1 vote
                                #16.11 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:22 PM EST
                                Reply

                                I don't know why anyone would buy anything with the Trump name on it. It is so low-class, in my opinion.

                                • 11 votes
                                Reply#17 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:27 AM EST

                                And Martha Stewart is high class? Convicted felon.

                                • 1 vote
                                #17.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:03 PM EST
                                Reply

                                Of course trump has all of the free speech him cares to abuse.... I have every right to vote with my dollars.

                                • 9 votes
                                Reply#18 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:31 AM EST

                                Liberals are so accepting of others beliefs. what a bunch of hypocrites. Be like us or be

                                chastised.

                                • 10 votes
                                Reply#19 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:32 AM EST

                                Because chastising is such harsh treatment. /s

                                Did you know that people in this country are allowed to disagree with one another? Loudly, if they so choose.

                                I may not have signed the petition, but they have as much right to make and sign it as he does to say some of the loathsome things he says.

                                Welcome to America, tomarama.

                                • 12 votes
                                #19.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:11 PM EST

                                Isn't that what the white man has been forcing everyone else to do for years? Wow! Where have I been? I guess I missed the history of slavery and everything in between up until now. So the white man didn't force other races to work for them and got angry if the slaves didn't want to. Now that the slaves are "free", miniorities are forced to act like white people or we probably won't get a job. Must continue to act white to keep that job. Can't be too different Massuh, if I want to feed my family. Must act like the white man if I want to move up in that job. Who cares what I actually know because the white man is mad that I even know how to read since you never wanted me to learn. And I graduated with a Bachelor's...almost done with my Master's and yet the white man wants to continue to believe that I don't know nuthin. Ok...Massuh. You is correct. You are smarter than me even though you didn't know how to make this country thrive and this county wouldn't be what it is today without the blood and hardwork of the slaves.

                                You "conservatives" aren't loving it so much now that the tables are turning on you, are you? Oh...how everyone has to reap what they sow. I am sitting back and laughing my behind off as the "conservatives" try to so hard to tighten the reigns and regain control of America (which was never theirs to begin with). Karma really IS a B!

                                • 5 votes
                                #19.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:16 PM EST

                                Jaevis.....you must be attending an affirmative action Master's degree program for near retards.....re-read what you posted, because you should be kissing the white man's ass to be in America.......by the way your Black brothers are still holding black slaves all over Africa.....don't you think that is more important than what happened here 150 years ago, dolt?.....

                                • 6 votes
                                #19.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:43 PM EST

                                NYCGUY, you might want to sign up for this Affirmative Action Master's Degree program that you speak of. Take your ignorant self back to college (where they teach REAL history) and learn why black people were brought in chains to America. Or are you too stupid to hack it through college long enough to understand what you are being taught? Your comment seems to tell me it's the latter for you, buck-O. I can't even waste my energy typing something that you should already know. Idiot.

                                • 5 votes
                                #19.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:04 PM EST

                                Jaevis...please peddle your ignorant trash elsewhere, if your ancestors weren't brought to America, you would be picking burrs from between your toes after chasing your dinner through the bush, jackoff....

                                • 4 votes
                                #19.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:25 PM EST

                                jaevismom.. research black slave owners.. you are in for a big eye opener.. as for slavery. the first slaves were russian, ie WHITE>> so get over it..you are not a slave, and your parents werent slaves.. stop with the rascist stuff... you ought to look in the mirror sometime and see who is rascist...

                                • 3 votes
                                #19.6 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:51 PM EST

                                NYCGUY and Thorwhatever...you hate to hear the TRUTH! And read again. I never once said I was a slave. You're both jokes. You can get angry all you want but I'm going to sit back and continue laughing my way to the bank as America continues to change to the way it should have been from the beginning.

                                And I love all the generalizations *sarcasm here* but I would have LOVED to be left the h*ll alone in Africa with my family. I might actually know where I came from instead of having to take an expensive DNA test to find my ancestors and the rest of my relatives.

                                NYCGUY, you are a disgusting racist to think that the ONLY way I could have came to America was to be in chains. So you're saying my ancestors, some probably dying on a boat, sleeping in each other's feces and chained like dogs is the way I should be THANKFUL for how we came to America? I don't have to say much else to you to know how your life is probably turning out.

                                That kind of thinking is why I am SO VERY GLAD people like your kind aren't POTUS! There are FREE Africans coming to America every day! You're so inherently stupid, I'm almost insulted I have to respond to you to set the record straight.

                                Thor, you might want to research what racist means. Not liking what someone did to my ancestors and are still doing to my people is not racist. It's called an opinion which I am entitled to have so get over yourself. BTW...I know there were white and other races of slaves which was just as WRONG! However, let's stick to the topic at hand. RUSSIAN SLAVES ARE NOT RELEVANT TO A DISCUSSION BY AN AMERICAN ABOUT AMERICA!

                                You all definitely help me to see how the other half thinks. Talk about someone being racists. If you don't feel bad about what happened to black people then YOU'RE the racist. Not me. I never once put any other race down that went through what we went through (e.g. Holocaust, slaves that were other races, etc.). People like you all disgust me.

                                • 7 votes
                                #19.7 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:48 PM EST

                                Jaevismom, Racist people can't see that they are racist, if all they see is color.

                                Let me explain. If someone says " All Asians cant drive" it's because that's what has been the normal noise they are used to hearing from those around them.

                                This becomes a "Norm" for them when thinking of said people. Asians in this case.

                                Add any race, and stir the pot=ignorant statements about others. Or I.S.A.O

                                So please cut some of these people some slack. Some of them are too ignorant to even waste your time on IMO. I myself am Asian and Black. I have heard it all. I have a great life and a great family and couldn't imagine not being both sides of who i am.

                                When others look to slight you on race, do what you do and laugh out loud.

                                They are still letting race/color affect them in a negative way.

                                People fear what they don't understand. But, it seems you understand, thus you have no fear. Peace

                                • 2 votes
                                #19.8 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:32 PM EST

                                First off I want to say I also do not like Trump. That said Diana You are strong arming Macy's into doing what you demand By them them to get rid of trump or I will cut my card. That is plane and simple. You don't like trump don't shop there or buy his merchandise. But a threat is a threat. BF- I have a Penna SS card however I was not born there just lived there when I applied for it.

                                Doug- George Bush did not send us into was single handedly. There was an ovewrwhelming vote to by Congress. THey only turned on Bush when they saw how the world reacted to it.

                                Javis- learn about mormonism before you criticize them. YOu made be surprised at what you learn and just because you don't know anyone who is a mormon does not mean they do not exist.

                                Jaevis-It was Clinton that signed a bill having the Mortgage Companies and Banks lower their standards for getting a mortgage allowing people to buy these houses. It is easy for someone who has never owned a home to have been conned on that one. And also look back on history every 20 -30 years our housing market takes a crash. However because of the Bill Clinton signed the market crashed hard. Clinton made it much worse and yes people do have to take some responsibility in it. However not everyone is as educated as you are to know that they were being mislead and lets face it there was a lot of that.

                                I am also trying to read every post but can not know where the racist/slavery came from. However lets get some things straight. We American Indians were the first slaves in this country. Not the Blacks or Russians. Check out the history of the American Indians. We were treated far worse than anyother race. Second I watched 15 or more of the Presidents and his wifes speaches and interviews. In everyone they talked about how the blacks were being oppressed. B######### There is such a thing as affirmative Action and it works for both the blacks and any minority like me. There are special college funds set up just for blacks and Indians. THere are colleges just for us also.

                                I do feel bad for what happened to the blacks and every race that has entered this county. Because they all suffered in some way. Russians, Irish, Polish, Asian, etc. However unless we put both feet into the future and stop holding so tightly on the past we will always have racism. We need to forgive and let go of the past. What happened was years ago and did not happen to this generation. We need to stop holding future generations responsible for the past generations. I am not saying we need to forget what happened. Just leave it in the past.

                                • 1 vote
                                #19.9 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:30 PM EST

                                donald duck rump should be in prison right now, if only for his traitorous call for a revolution. Anyone else would be in prison right now for trying to provoke a civil war. but maybe the government does not take donald duck rump seriously, since he is such a buffoon. They must feel sorry he is walking around with a dead animal on his head. trump is a nutjob.

                                • 4 votes
                                #19.10 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:40 PM EST

                                Jaevis, you racist dope....you can still return to your homeland, no one is stopping you, grow some balls and book a flight, your black slave relatives need you to free them from their black masters who rape, beat and maim them as we speak.....but you go on hating whitey, because that's all you know...pathetic ...

                                • 1 vote
                                #19.11 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:37 AM EST
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                                I think Donald the noisy Bully who broadcasts lies should have some repurcussions for shooting off his mouth. Freedom of speech is different from libel.

                                I will never buy anything with his name on it.

                                • 13 votes
                                Reply#20 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:33 AM EST

                                I can't imagine who would buy anything with the Trump name on it, or anything that he endorsed. He may be rich, but that just makes him a rich buffoon to me. Like so many of the rich, he has no taste or class.

                                • 9 votes
                                #20.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:58 PM EST

                                sounds like sour grapes to me..

                                • 3 votes
                                #20.2 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:52 PM EST

                                If you don't like what Trump says then don't listen to him, I can't stand Chris Mathews and that little boy Rachel Maddow but they have a right to free speech.

                                Obama's minister in Chicago(Rev Wright) said horrible things about America but you liberal numbnuts still voted for him.

                                I'm more offended Martha Stewart is in the ad, isn't she an ex-con.

                                • 4 votes
                                #20.3 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:11 PM EST

                                I just want to know who were the prisoners in the annex in Bengahzi and why is the prsident so afraid of them?

                                • 1 vote
                                #20.4 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:18 PM EST

                                Shawn-- Are you refering to nixon and his staff of theives ,liars,and discredided marines?

                                • 1 vote
                                #20.5 - Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:48 PM EST

                                Well, I won't buy anything with Martha Stewart's name on it and probably wouldn't buy anything with the Donald's name on it. That doesn't mean that others won't buy those things. I am pretty sure that Macy's carries items WITHOUT Donald Trump's name on it and no one at Macy's is going to force anyone to buy something they don't want. If the stuff with the Donald's name doesn't sell, guess what? Macy's will stop carrying it.

                                • 1 vote
                                #20.6 - Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:39 PM EST
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