Remember these?
THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.

“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.

“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.

“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.

“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.

"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."

“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.

“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."

"I'll close Guantanamo."

"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."

"I'll unite the people of this great country."

BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
Fool me once shame on YOU!
Fool me twice shame on ME

originally from GIMMIE

Fool me twice shame on ME

Absolutely right, Bush DID fool you twice.

Remember this

Mitch McConnell - "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

You can spin that just about any way you like, until you consider the actions of Congress. They governed on just that goal. It is not like we do not know how to get the economy going. The Republican Congress just refused to do it.

Spin cycle is set on high this month......

In Ohio the depression is taking it's toll.

Our roads that were in great shape are being torn up and repaved?? wtf?

This is just a 'feel good' spin story to boost obama's campaign... not gonna work libbies, we're getting smarter than that!

Mittmentum is sweeping the country! We want REAL CHANGE!

KI Smart Simple,

Remember this?

The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
Mitch McConnell Oct, 2010

"Taliban Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban. Insurgency is the way they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- is an example of how you go about to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that Insurgency may be required when [dealing with] the other side"

"If they [democrats] do not give us those options or opportunities then we will then become Insurgency ... I think Insurgency is a mindset and an attitude that we're going to have to search for and find ways to get our message out and to be prepared to see things for what they are, rather than trying to do something about them"

~Rep Pete Sessions, March 2009, regarding wrecking the US economy to ruin the Obama presidency.

"We've gotta challenge them on every single bill."

"Show united and unyielding opposition to the president’s economic policies." GOP Rep Kevin McCarthy

"You’ll remember this as the day the seeds of 2012 were sown."

Newt Gringrich, after a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with GOP members literally plotted to sabotage and undermine U.S. economy during President Obama's Inauguration on Jan 20, 2009.

all the lies are coming from the right.tell us of your tax plan tell us of your budget plan.and stop lying about the presidents.

Ahh.. Good news that is quickly spun by the right back to "DOOM and GLOOM".

From behind a tree.... George Bush Says "Can I come out now Mitt"

Mitt Says "Not yet George, we are still pretending that your terms never existed".

Obama/Biden 2012.

I do not understand the logic behind "Obama is a liar, vote for Mitt Romney instead."

This is akin to say "That wolf is a dangerous animal. Here, jump into this crocodile's mouth, you'll be safe there."

The pubs and baggers refused to help, and they are going to get none of the credit.

Just think how far along we would have been if the House hadn't dragged their feet and spent the last half of 2012 on vacation. That's right, they have been off for a month, and they aren't coming back for another month.

That's your prudent, get er done teabagger Congress for you.

BULL!!! Another FLUFF story to get people to vote for Obama!

With Christmas looming.......people are wondering where they are going to get the money for gifts! 23 MILLION are still Unemployed!!!!!!!!!!!

Barry cant take time to tell us the TRUTH about Benghazi with 4 Americans MURDERED while he watched, but can take time to give a weather report from FEMA!

Bet that checkbook opens REAL FAST for the flood victims in areas he is losing in!

Look, this was a Gallup poll, not a statement from the Obama campaign. It's information, not propaganda. The information the poll reveals is that Americans are feeling better about the economy. There are a lot of reasons for this. Republicans will deny them all and point to the remaining problems in an attempt to influence the pathologically stupid. There are problems to be sure, there has never been a time in history that was free of problems. It's just that the problems seem less insurmountable now than they did 4 years ago. If you want to vote for Romney, go ahead, it won't change the fact that more people feel the economy is improving than one year ago. Less than half feel the economy is getting worse; I suspect the majority of them are republicans who would instantly feel better if Romney wins.

Bad news for RobMe and Lying. RWNJ's are going have their heads spinning and hands wringing while screaming "Bu!! Sh!t" to themselves and to whoever might listen.

What Americans?!?! Not anybody who is in business. Not any individuals that are currently working or looking for work!! If you are a leech living off the government then of course everything is fine for you - so far........

But for those people in the REAL world this is a terrible economy with no sign of improvement under the Obama administration. He doesn't even have a plan for the NEXT four years!! When Obama's campaign slogan is "It is STILL about Hope. It is STILL about Change" we know we are in trouble. We have had all the "change" we can handle right now and the only thing we can "hope" for is Romney to get elected and fix this mess the Community Organizer in Chief has caused.

I feel much better knowing that Obama will keep only one promise.... in 2008 he said if he didn't fix the economy and Bush's deficit... he'd be a "one term proposition"! Let's make him keep that promise... eh?

Even though he's trying to lie his way back in for another 4 years..... America has woke up to the fact he's nothing but a charlatan! Nobama 2012!

http://www.youtube.com/embed/dXi4l4q6Aho?feature=player_embedded

For Obama so loved the POOR he created 25 million more.

people are optimistic because they see the mittmentum to oust obama... happy days will soon be here!

Ir12

You failed to mention that Democrats controlled both the House and Senate for the first two years of Obama's administration. And even under those conditions, they did NOTHING. Put the blame where it belongs.

This is a failed President. I am sure this story is biased and does represent a lot of American citizens.

He said he would resign if he did not cut the deficit. He is not to be trusted - he knows he failed and yet hopes for another 4 years. For what? Most Americans do not want the dreams of his father realized in American. 2016: Obama's America.

He still has Lybia to answer for. He sat and monitored the death of Americans and did nothing. THEN lied about it for weeks, and I am sure we still do not know the complete truth of it all.

Change is coming, but it will not be his.

I've been HOPING and can't wait for the CHANGE in 8 days.

COUNTDOWN: 8 DAYS

Ha Ha Ha , He passed health care reform ,something other presidents couldn't and cleaned hiding Georges other messes up.

The manufacturing company for which I work has been in business for over 40 years. We are a Pennsylvania manufacturing company. We do not outsource and everything we manufacture is made from American-made steel and American-made components.

The end of 2008 and the beginning of 2009 nearly brought us to our knees. We had, literally, no orders for five months. Since then, however, business began to slowly increase. As of the beginning of September we have hired additional employees in our shop and all of us are working overtime.

The economy is getting better. Because it is not a falsely-manufactured explosion, created by deregulating banks, it is a true growth that will be able to sustain itself. Slow and steady wins the race.

The president of our company, the management, office staff, welders, fabricators, laborers, maintenance and cleaning personnel, in our discussions in the break room, all agree that President Obama is setting the nation back on the correct course.

The only people complaining about President Obama are the extremely wealthy who know that President Obama will force them to pay their fair share of taxes and the brainwashed sheep who follow the preachings of the right-wing media that is controlled by those extremely wealthy people.

President Obama wants the middle class to have the same opportunities as those born with silver spoons in their mouths. To say that the percentage paid by the wealthy should be lower than the percentage paid by the middle class is obscene. To allow the ubber-rich to have loopholes and tax shields so that they do not have to pony up the same percentage as middle-class working American is unjust.

All these folks who say that small business is not behind President Obama are just regurgitating what they hear in the Romney camp and on Faux news. It is just not true.

Obama / Biden 2012

I think people are more hopeful than happy about the economy. Whoever you hope is going to win, youre probably feeling hope, not satisfaction. The economy still sucks. I know way too many people that are underemployed, I seriously doubt theyd say the economy is better.

You left-wing loons should learn to read. Oh, that's right. Reading is WAY down the list of priorities for the teachers' unions.

The ONLY people CLAIMING that things are getting better in the Gallup Poll were DEMOCRATS!!

Then NBC gets their "survey" information from University of Michigan and Thomson Reuters - one of the most far-left universities in the country and a CANADIAN company.

The reason that the Pew Research Center survey cited in the article found that people are HEARING less negative news about the economy is right under your nose. It's because left-wing media WH0RES like NBC are presenting PROPAGANDA instead of the TRUTH.

ProBusiness

What Americans?!?! Not anybody who is in business. Not any individuals that are currently working or looking for work!! If you are a leech living off the government then of course everything is fine for you - so far........

Wrong. I am a business owner and business is good and getting better. Maybe you're just not very good at what you do...Would you like some tips?

BTW...as to Rmoney's lies about increased regulation, I have seen none. The Patriot Act is a pain. Thank You,GWB. But all is well with me and I thank Mr. Obama for having the courage to stand up to the reich-wing jackels even though I don't agree with all of his decisions.

@foolishness abounds

Good work. Karl Rover would be proud of you. Attack the message. Attack the messenger. Be dismissive of the truth. Nice spin.

The only people complaining about President Obama are the extremely wealthy who know that President Obama will force them to pay their fair share of taxes and the brainwashed sheep who follow the preachings of the right-wing media that is controlled by those extremely wealthy people.

I say we all need to pay our fair share American peoples taxes are way too low they need to increase to 1970 tax rate with no inflation adjustment.3 /5ths of the country pays on average less than 1-0% federal income taxes the. the nest fifth pays on average 4% and the last fifth pays 7-8% You don't go past an average of 9.9% until you go past 250K of income. so you see we all need to stop being dead beats and pay the piper.

So lets jump off the fiscal cliff Democrats have already proven the Bush tax cuts did nothing so if they expire they will do nothing to hurt the economy.

foolishness abounds: Don't get too upset. All one has to do is pay attention to this site and the rest of DNC sites to know that their only idea of "news" is news they fabricate with phony polls. And then there's the purposeful slant of the polls too. Add to that the nebulous wording of the polls, and you can end up with plenty of room to spin. The good news is that nobody really believes NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN are actually impartial news agencies. Most are well aware that these are merely PR arms of the DNC. How else can you explain their total failure to investigate Libya and report facts. Obviously, if Obama was a repub, these same PR organizations would be screaming for Impeachment!

As to the question of Americans feeling better about the economy: I think they definitely are. They believe that Obama will be out of office in 3 months and that is good news for anyone to optimistic about. Of course, if Obama wins, then you'll see the optimism fade very fast.

"Whore of Babylon"/"Mystery Babylon" is the United States

When The Revelation Ch 17 & 18 refers to the "whore of Babylon" and "Mystery Babylon", it's referring to the United States. Literally, the ruins of Babylon are 50 miles south of Baghdad, Iraq and they were 'destroyed' by the American & Polish Armies in 2003 (google 'destruction of Babylon'), thus fulfilling prophecy when interpreted literally. Figuratively (and the dictionary's 2nd definition), 'Babylon' is any city that is wicked, immoral, and possesses excess luxury. Many Americans - perhaps most - will do anything for money. Our political leaders, our religious leaders, our lawyers, our media, and certainly our business leaders will very often do immoral and ungodly things for their love of money. They usually have no regrets (unless they've been caught) for their choice of GOLD over GOD - they have accepted the temptation presented to them by the D'evil. The 1% owning 93% of all wealth is the most antiChrist thing I can think of with the exception that these greedy whores of Babylon want even more!

The GOOD News is that the Christ returns as World-Teacher, Judge, and Saviour of Mother Earth and humankind. See http://7seals.blogspot.com & http://7seals.yuku.com

Ooooooh, it's magic! One week before the election and we still have the same dreary, miserable economic statistics we've had for four long years, but all of a sudden we're feeling better about the economy....effing magic, right NBC?

Americans are feeling better about the economy? I don't know where these Americans are living in the United States, but I can tell you that here in Breckenridge, CO we are NOT feeling better about the economy, which is why you see lots and lots of Romney/Ryan bumper stickers where there used to be Obama/Biden 2008 bumper stickers.

Tim and Tom Laine have Bidens support.

Hahaha are any of you "Unemployed" feeling better? Any of the soon to be laid off feeling better? Any of the foreclosed feeling better? Any of the Homeless feeling better now? Any of the uninsured feeling better? Any of the maimed and injured Veterans feeling better now?

Just a little more Corporate Propaganda pure an simple so let US all get together and sing Kum Ba Ya as the Wall Street Banksters and their Corrupt Politicians in Washington DC and in your local Governments lead US all once again up the Corporate slaughter chute!

Bhaaaaaa.........Don't you all feel so much better now?

"In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell

The surprise in October is the arise of Romney after Democrats/Obama paint Romney like a demon until the first debate when he introduce himself, the image that Democrats made of Romney vanish. Woman are shifting with no fear anymore despite the warmongering without much result. The economy is more important than free pills or the fear of take away their right of abortion, losing the war on woman what is left, Latinos, elderly,race . Democrats still have some more cards to play in order create fear because Obama has not plan just a remake of the last 4 years, but the economy where Romney is strong will dominate the outcome of the election.

Romney 2012 for a real recovery.

Lola - Obama is the President that has just about obliterated the middle class! You don't have to worry about Romney destroying the middle class, but there won't be a middle class if Obama is re-elected.

Bhaaa I'm a Democrat.....Bhaaa I'm a Republican.... Bhaaa I am clueless and refuse to see the truth of the Abattoir in front of my nose!

Bhaaaa..........Once our children where Free!

"War is peace...Freedom is slavery...Ignorance is strength."~George Orwell, 1984

We republicans have no problem with everyone paying their fair share. Its we have a different definition of fair share than democrats. You dems see everyone elses money as yours. If I work really hard and make sacrifices in my newly formed business, put in twice as many hours as my employees, mortgage my families home to cover costs, risk my marriage, and through my own hard work my company becomes successful....you democrats see its profit as "the people's".

Lola1234

ir12, you are 1000% correct. McConnell and the Tea Party have made it their GOAL to block Obama's policies for the sole purpose of seeing him fail....Even at the expense of the American people...To put Romney in the presidency would mean absolute destruction of the Middle Class.

Do you really believe that, the President who do not recognize my success is destroying the middle class at this time , and destroying the future of our childs , putting trillions of dollars in debt , has you know that money is not free and our childs must pay interest too. Now thanks to Obama we have an strong poor class increasing everyday which is positive for Democrats who are expert in war-class warfare. Obama want a radical change of our country because this country is not fair enough, in his second term he will have more flexibility to reach his goals, like he mention to the Russian dignitary.

classic communism and you hit the nail on the head "thatguydownsouth". Thank you!

I'm a business owner and I've seen our business materially picking up over the past year. We've recently hired 2 new staff. I know that it's a drop in the bucket, but, it feels good to take them on.

The 2008 Recession was a killer for us. But, we tightened up and made it through. It's clear that our customers have more discretionary money as of late.

Clearly, leading economists are projecting significant growth in the next 3-4 years. GDP projections are in the area of 3% with Europe 1.7-2%. It's clear at this point that the decisions taken by the US governement and the Federal Reserve board have gone a long ways towards keeping the recession from being much worse. It's clear that these decisions were correct. Especially, when you see the European banks beginning to change their approach from fiscal austerity to an approach more similar to what was done in the US.

The big exposure right now is sequestration issue. My hope is once the rabid political boodsport is out of the way cooler heads will prevail there.

Things are not better, wages are stagnant, costs are up. By the way, at yesterdays Green Bay Packer game, not 1 single person of the 10,000's I saw had a Obama/Biden sticker or pin on, however I saw thousands with Romney/Ryan stickers and pins.

Romney/Ryan 2012

"October surprise: Americans feeling better about economy"

Are you joking? Or is this just a story to make people "think" the economy is getting better just before the election?!?

The economy is NOT getting better, don't believe this article. The company I worked for just announced we will be closing on October 31st, 2012 due to the poor economy and the owner not being able to renew his bank loan. After 12 years in business this is what it has come to, banks have tightened up on lending, due to all the new regulations. The regulations and poor economy has made it very difficult for small business' to operate. There are 48 people at our company that will be on the unemployment line this week . Our office in Hong Kong will also close, 14 people will be out of work there.

THE ECONOMY IS NOT GETTING BETTER!! I am Hoping for a Change in November, because we can no afford 4 more years!! Wake up America, look around you, talk to your friends, neighbors, etc. don't believe what you read, the economy is not getting better.

I am feeling a little better ... laid off all my employees last year. I contracted with a few as 1099 employees ... as 1099 employees I don't have to pay Socail Security Taxes for them or other payroll taxes and I don't have to buy them HealthCare. If work falls off I give them less work, If get more jobs I contract them per job. If Romney is elected the economy will rocket and I will be forced to rehire or risk losing my "employees" to competitors but if Obama is re-elected I am already set for the next 4 years.

Des Moines Register endorses Romney....important as no GOP endorsement in over 40 years!!!

and several other news papers have endorsed too!

When is MSN going to get in line?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20121028/CAROUSEL/310280078/The-Des-Moines-Register-endorsement-Mitt-Romney-offers-fresh-economic-vision?nclick_check=1

I am sorry but Obama had his chance...even with his lack of experience he should have made more progress...he hasn't even had a budget for any of his term! How can you justify that? I understand he voted "present" several times as an Illinois congressman...that just shows a lack of backbone and a desire to become president - no voting record means nobody can call you on it.

When will liberals hold Obama accountable for anything. He had the majority for two years and did biff. He's a disgrace and a complete and utter failure. It's going to take all of Romney's acumen to climb out of the hole Obama dug. It wasn't pretty when he took office, but he's made it much worse.

To vote for Obama is to vote for communism, so there is no way I can vote for Obama and the fool Biden, the economy has not improved in the past 4 years it has doubled back things are twice as bad as when Obama took office and if Obama care goes on it will bankrupt the country, and his plans for rebuilding the nation will only destroy it. besides the fact he really has no plan other then wealth redistribution that will cost jobs. making a unprofitable atmosphere will not bring jobs to America, inflating the economy will not pay our bills, forcing expensive insurance backed by high Taxes and fines will not build a strong economy it will destroy it then what will you do. this has been a failed Presidency, just like Carters. maybe Obama should have followed Clintons plan and sold off a bunch of America to balance the budget. I'm sure China would like the rest of the west coast, and Denmark and Dubai, could use some more eastern Turn pikes, who has the harbors now? is China really stepping in to run our utilities and control all the wind power? Watch those Democrats they are selling /leasing everything.

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever." ~George Orwell, 1984

Once again you poor delusional fools pretend that you have a "Vote" when you really have nothing and truly only a fool thinks there is one bit of difference between Obama or Romney.

Wake up America for once again nothing from nothing is still nothing and only the Wall Street Banksters will profit from our loss this year!

As a wise lady said it is better to refuse to encourage them so let this be the lowest election turnout ever!

If you have to vote vote 3rd party for if enough of America votes "No More" then perhaps they will "Take a hint" other wise this will end badly and no amount of your sad "Dreams of Change" will change anything!

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which." ~George Orwell, Animal Farm

While the wolf you describe is a Muslim from Kenya.

One would have to be a complete moron to still think there's a shred of truth to that idiotic rumor.

tim: But, his father was a communist from Kenya who was barred from entering the US. Since Obama signs his father's praise, I guess there isn't a heck of a lot of difference. Personally, I'd rather he was born somewhere else and not be a die-hard socialist trying to destroy our country.

Locke1632

The big exposure right now is sequestration issue. My hope is once the rabid political boodsport is out of the way cooler heads will prevail there

We are at mercy of secuestration, my state of Virginia will lose thousand of jobs mostly in Military sector, secuestrarion was Obamas idea.

<<<<<Famed Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward disputed Obama's statement that the idea was birthed by Republicans in Congress.

"What the president said is not correct," Woodward told Politico on Tuesday. "And it's refuted by the people who work for him."

In his book The Price of Politics, the reporter who gained fame from the Watergate scandal outlined that it was White House Office of Management Director Jack Lew and Legislative Affairs Director Rob Nabors who took the sequestration proposal to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. They also presented it to House Republicans.

Initially, no one thought a deal could not be reached to avert hitting the debt ceiling, but when reality started to unfold, the sequestration was the only option left standing. Woodward also writes that the president may not have known the entire story of how the process unfolded.

"It's a complicated process – and in fairness to the president – maybe he didn't know that they were doing this because it's kind of technical budget jargon," Woodward said in his Politico interview. "What I wrote – it's specific date, time, place, participants. What I've reported is totally accurate. Call Nabors and Lew. Or ask the White House. I mean, they know that's accurate.">>>>>>>>

Thomas Blue, DAppel, other SMOs,

Your business is up because other businesses have gone under.

How many people did you layoff in order to stay in business?

How many people have you hired back?

What was you competition? What is your competition today?

Regardless of who is president, the country will be worse off in 5-10 years than it is now. many economists on both sides are starting to tell the truth now and realize that the Western World is headed for and epic collapse that has never been seen before. Governments will do everthing they can to stay in power as long they can. We will continue to have $1Trillion + a year deficit spending for eternity or until it collapses. Since you can't spend 1Trillion more a year than you take in forever, it will inevitably collapse. This is a horrible situation we are in. Im am no tin hat wearer, I just have common sense and realize that you can not continue to have EVERYONE in debt for ever. It just can't work and will eventually all collpase around us. Good luck everyone, we are in for a different world in the future.

For the Very Few NAIVE
American voters who are thinking of voting for Mitt
Tax Pittance Rommel and Lyin'Ryan out of desperation and hope that these two
MONSTERS will rescue your life, Better look AT THE FACTS. CountDracula and EdddiMunster are going to keep the bush TAX EVASION BONUSES FOR THE EVIL
RICH In Effect: with TheCount's Crappy excuse? "I won't LOWER the taxes on
the Rich!!!!" Well, Thanks Count, as you 1-10% and Corporate
rich already pay the Lowest taxes in American History and the taxes are REALLY on the Backs of working Americans @37%. And! AND!! AND!!! Gas and Oil Prices???? What a Sucker Punch at Voters. The Count and EddiMunster PERSONALLY Dreamed up the $4.00p/g at the pump to blame it on Prez O. JUST WHO do you voters think sets Gas& Oil prices, "Healthcare" policy prices, Hiring, Job/Career Outsourcing, Burger Flipping pay for NET $4.50p/hr while TheCount and these
republicanCrimecartel Soldiers are SUCKING YOU DRY for
$4.00p/gal gas and oil,
$1100.00p/m for "healthinsurance", while, Rommels FRIEND, the ceo
at united healthcare, took home $128,000,000 CASH, Paid No taxes with capital
Gains LoopHoles, Thanks to The republicanCrimeCartel Perverted the tax laws leaving WE American TaxPayers to Pay HIS Taxes. These are aristocrat decendents of the Plantation and SlaveOnwers who were the ruling idiots who started the civil war and ran the south into ruination. AND PresentDay, these Politicos convinced NAIVE voters to vote them into controlling the House Of Representatives, promising Renenewed republican power to be used to create jobs and government services. What A Cruel Laugh, Fooled You AGAIN!! The republicanCrimeCartelPoliticos have used the House of Reptiles to block EVERY HELPFUL Bill prez O has created and backed for Creating jobs and helping WE AMERICANS. And Some of you are STILL considering voting for THIS EVIL And VILE GROUP, Who will use your vote to Hurt YOU and give it ALL AWAY to themselves and the 1-10% and Corporate Rich for New and VERY PROFITABLE Wars in Libya, Egypt and, of course, Iran.
Here Is a Very VERY Helpful Link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og35U0d6WKY&feature=player_detailpage

How did I know the comment section was going to be ripe with right wing idiots claiming Mitt is going to save the day. When are idiots going to wake up and realize the president can do very little to create jobs. Sure they can increase the size of the government or military and create jobs that way, but almost all jobs are created by regular people who start and own businesses. Mitt's plan: Tax breaks for the rich + increased military spending = more debt.

Personally, I'd rather he was born somewhere else and not be a die-hard socialist trying to destroy our country.

Then you should be happy with the facts that he was born in Hawaii, and isn't even close to being a socialist. Not every social program is 'socialist', unless you oppose things like police, fire departments, public schools and Medicare - all of which are overwhelmingly popular.

Objectively, his policies are actually right-center - it's just that the Republicans have become so radicalized that everything else is far to left of them.

There was a time when the John Birch Society was a laughingstock for it's paranoid-delusional positions, like opposing the Communist Threat of fluoridation. Now they're mainstream Republicans.

And as we speak Romneys vulture business Bain Capitol which he is still a huge shareholder is dismantling and shipping American jobs from a profitable U.S. company(Sensata) to China. Romney is the most ruthless and despicable type of business man in our country and the right wants him to be our president. I hope all you conservatives are willing to move to China if you still want your job.

On the day before an election that's supposed to hinge on jobs, taxes and the middle class, Bain Capital, the company Mitt Romney founded, will close the doors of a factory in Freeport, Illinois, and ship 170 good, high-tech jobs to China.

The employees of Sensata Technologies were forced to train their Chinese replacements, and the American flag that long flew over the factory was reportedly removed while the Chinese engineers were visiting the site. A group of workers have set up camp across from the factory -- calling it “Bainport” -- and some supporters have tried to block the trucks hauling equipment out of the plant. According to Dave Johnson, there have been several arrests.

Sensata workers have asked to meet with Mitt Romney and hoped to enlist his help keeping their jobs in the United States, but he has refused, instead remaining on the campaign trail where he speaks often about “getting tough” with China.

The most important part of the story is that Sensata Technologies is profitable operating in Illinois. Net income last year was $355 million, up 16 percent from 2010. The company reported total revenues of $1.8 billion in 2011, up almost 19 percent from the year before. According to a company financial statement, “both 2011 net revenue and adjusted net income represent record levels for the company.”

So this has nothing to do with “making hard choices” in the process of turning around a failing business, which is how the Romney campaign describes Bain's corporate raiding. Bain's partners are looking for a modest boost in profits by locating the plant closer to the booming Asian automotive market (Sensata makes high-tech automotive parts). They'll get a small tax break for relocating the plant – the one Mitt Romney insisted did not exist during the first debate – and possibly defer taxes on some of the income the company generates.

http://liberty.com/content/video-obama-supporters-vandals-and-thieves

How can two articles be like this side to side? Doesn't MSNBC also have articles about: Employers being picky and cheap? Or how unemployment drags on?

http://lifeinc.today.com/_news/2012/10/26/14721474-jobseekers-on-employers-slow-picky-cheap-annoying

http://lifeinc.today.com/_news/2012/10/26/14699000-workers-face-tough-choice-as-unemployment-drags-on

This article is pure proganda for Obama.

Vote Romney/Ryan!

You libs are hysterical. Your new found hatred of the rich, because Obama (who is a 1%er) told you they were evil people. Wow. I'm a 1%er and employ 75 people whose average salaries are approx. $60K annually. Small business. How many poor people do you know that own companies, employ people, provide benefits, allows you to afford houses, cars. The demonized rich donate billions to various charitable organizations and pay by far the most in tax $$$. But you're told to hate them because they are successful.

PhantomBeast - you are correct when you say very few NAIVE Americans who are thinking about voting for Mitt. There are very few because they have already thought it through, reviewed the facts, have seen the lies about Mitt dispelled through out all three debates, have witnessed lie after lie by Mitt's opponent-Obama / MSM, and now believe it would be the height of colassal ignorance to vote Obama Biden 2012.

A vote for Obama is not optimal.

Again...so many lies by rt wingers.......

renee....the democratic party only had 2 1/2 months of control due to election recounts and sickness of it's members.....only 2 1/2 months the rest of the time the repubs could and did use a record of amounts of filibusters to stop bills that would help America recover. Your rant is either due to your ignorance...or a lie.....

Mittster said during the primaries if it was up to him, FEMA wouldn't exist....so today he is trying to act like a real president once more...flip flopping and trying to be Obama. Only we know Romney wants to abolish FEMA and repubs are defunding FEMA to make America suffer.......because they love $$$$ more!

This is the best political ad I have seen so far this season! The video plays the same worn out B.S. Obama used in 2008 and is using again in 2012 speeches - nothing new! It is amazing when you actually see it for yourself played side-by-side on a split scr

Obama promised so much "Hope and Change" in 2008, let's give him that hope and change next week at the polls!!

Here are a few things to remember when you vote this week.

16 TRILLION in debt, and going up.

Government spending $1.40 for every $1. that comes in via taxes (Credit card from the bank of china)

More people on food stamps, welfare and gov assistance than EVER BEFORE

the most people out of work for the longest sustained period of time since the depression (What’s that three letter word? J O B S )

4 Americans murdered in Libya, and obama knew what was going on and then lied about it.

Boarder patrol agent murdered with gun from failed obama/holder op, fast and furious

535 Million tax payer dollars to Solyandra

Tax payers money to ABC Battery

This is NOT what recovery looks like

Positive Me,

For Romney so hated the lower and middle classes, he stole their money from them and gave it to the RICH - all 5 trillion worth!

Republican Taliban = American Terrorists

Romney caught lying flip flopping today on his statement that he would end FEMA and privatize it. He said funding FEMA was immoral.

Today he changed his mind again...what he was for he wasn't for and what he wasn't for he is for now!

Romney whines there is not enough taxpayer money to fund FEMA......DUH when he avoids paying his fair share of taxes by hiding money offshore, and republicans signed the Norquist pledge not to raise taxes back up on the rich...no wonder we don't have enough money coming in!

Romney wants to pay no taxes by ending his capital gains tax. Again...ROMNEY REFUSES TO PAY HIS FAIR SHARE OF TAXES!

NEED FEMA HELP?...ROMNEY SAYS GO TO HELL! YOU SHOULD HAVE PLANNED FOR IT. Romney's solution? Privatize......He said that...somehow there is a way for him and the rich to make money off the people struck by disaster!

Ryan plans cuts billions from programs including FEMA!

Ref Yahoo news.com 10/29/12

Ryan's House-passed budget proposal suggested $11 billion for "Community and Regional Development," a government function that includes FEMA and disaster relief. President Obama's budget allocation was nearly $19 billion. That's a cut of about 40 percent for 2013 under Ryan's plan, according to the Office of Management and Budget. The disparity would grow to more than 60 percent in future years, according to a study by David Kendall of the non-partisan think tank Third Way.

WORMY.....WHY WON'T ROMNEY SHOW HIS TAXES?

WHY WON'T ROMNEY PAY HIS FAIR SHARE?

Romney not satisfied with rigging his taxes for 2011, up to 14% instead of the 10% he would have only paid if he didn't show his 2011 taxes, wants to end almost all his taxes down to .89%.

Wormy you whine about the deficit repubs and the war profiteers rang up, but you never whine about all those republicans who signed the Norquist pledge to not raise taxes on the rich!

I'd like to know who they asked. It certainly wasn't me. You could spin this after the election but before, with all the uncertainty, there is no way.

G-Man-804405

And as we speak Romneys vulture business Bain Capitol which he is still a huge shareholder is dismantling and shipping American jobs from a profitable U.S. company(Sensata) to China.

That is a LIE! My friend works for a company OWNED by BAIN and you are just repeating liberal rhetoric! Unless you have proof, stop!

I own 2 company's in California and sales are not picking up,there worst then in 2009 numbers, and this has got to be my worst yet by far.

In 2007 I had 27 workers half of those were full time and now in 2012 I have only 4 part time workers/friends I say friends because if they were not I would just give up all together.

Romney Because he has a plan and it's no BS

Can you believe this whole article??? What a load of crap!!!! Things are NOT better!!
This is the alledged"October Surprise" that's going to dramatically change the way the elections will go?????? IF libbies think a BS feel good spin story is gonna swing things their way then I have some ocean front property in Arizona they might be interested in.

The BIGGEST surprises in October are that Obama, Biden, Clinton Rice and most of the media actually believe the majority of Americans arent upset by their LIES about Benghazi-gate!!!!

Another big surprises is Obama's complete disrespect to the father of oneof the fallen. Couldn't look this man i n the eye adn be sincere in expressly condolences. NO teleprompter around I guess

Then BITEME BIDEN who definetely needs a damned script in front of his face before he speaks pulls the sickest and biggest bonehead move of the decade with his sick twisted reamrk to that same father. THIS is the man who would be a heartbeatr from the Presidency???? WHO dares to talk to a grieveng father like that? What kind of man, what kind of fricking decent human asks a father who's just lost his son "Did your son always have balls the size of cueballs??????

The surprise is that the media REFUSES to demand answers from these two bozo's.

THE BIGGEST ,BEST AND ONLY SURPRISE I WANT BEFORE OCT. IS OVER IS FOR OBAMA/BIDEN TO COME CLEAN ABOUT THIS STUFF LIKE REAL MEN AND THAT THE MEDIA STOP BEING BIASED FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!

Despite years of republican obstructionism the economy is picking up some steam. (and against the strong headwinds of the Eurozone recession.)

I noticed in the polling data, no one in the private sector was polled ? ... Only Government Union Employees.

Of course Government Employees feel better, they make 400% more than the average American and instead of working 50 years before retirement ... Government Employees only have to work 25 year ... instead of having to set aside their own $ out of their own pay check for retirement like the private sector, Government Employees are just given a Guaranteed retirement without contributing ONE G D DIME ....

Hey America ... do you ever feel like a G D puttz

economy is better now again? make up my mind!

we get this crap, and its presidential propaganda, and its bs! the economy doest turn from a flop, for 5 yrs, and magically turn better cause some MSNBC writer thinks it did. being on welfare, and collecting work on behalf of the government doesnt mean its getting better. fri a guy was laid off, he hanged himself at work a couple hrs after getting the news that this was his last day for a while, and he did it at work, in front of everyone, NO NEWS ON THAT THO HUH? everyone here, to include MYSELF who know the job market is falling, and has been and hasnt improved. you have grads every year added to a workforce that doesnt count them. you have those who were not able to find a job before UEB's ended, and they are counted as "gave up". BULL SH!T im 46 yrs old, and if i get laid off i am screwed. sure i will get UEB's that do little to help. pays rent, ring a ding-ding! cost of living has gone up to the point, normally, i would be able to save. been playing catch up since day one for over 1 1/2 yrs now. matter of fact, making the same exsact amount back in 2001-2004 i was able to rent an entire house, stay full, and still afford to buy something nice. i live in a area now, that is about as cheap as it gets, and i barely make it. i lost 40 lbs and looks like its gone. (fyi i need that 40lbs, i look like a starving ethiopian i have no f'ing ass left to lose if i lose this job by getting laid off). fact is, if Nobama cuts military spending on the navy, i can kiss my job goodbye, permantly here in 6 months, maybe less. then me, like about another 800-1000 workers are on the list. thats bare bones till the jobs are done, with the axe falling randomly on the next low senior employee till shut down.

i will not hold it against anyone, i am grateful i was able to serve on the taxpayers time, with an oppertunity to learn a few things. i spent my time working and putting forth a solid effort + on my part. no forman has a problem with me working under them, and a light pinch of dissapointment if i dont make their roster. im not the sharpest tool in the shed, and i may not be the 1st to finish any good race on the track, but stay at it till the fans go home, and the job is done. i may leave spent, sore, and wishing it were easier, but i leave with pride i did a good job in making something that lives depend on, for our country. it will be dependable, and worth every penny i can make it on a personal basis.

a saying going around the plant, "just living the dream". i used to play with most of the stuff i made when i was a kid. now i build/make the real things. not just at this place but every place, union, and non union. i dont have that option anymore. i wont get to see what i made, go out the door, and the owner(s) who cant be happier. seeing what i made being driven behind a semi, with something else i used to make being hauled on the back. farm field with the any type of equipment being used. locomotive engine parts, and bodys. lawn care, to the government buildings they care for, as well hospitals. and the list goes on a bit....

but so much for pride, and workmanship.

thats our economy.

frank4558355 Said...........

......."tell us of your tax plan tell us of your budget plan"......

I guess you'll have to vote him in/ pass it to see whats inside. You should be OK with that yes?

plus, i would like to hear from any one person, how when you have pi%% poor job growth, and that isnt counting AGAIN the uncounted into the equasion. that actually is setting the true numbers to about 23% or better. Then when jobs pay less, and food, to gas is up thru the roof, AND STILL CLIMBING how the economy is BETTER!

not to mention all we have heard this year so far, is a FAILING ECONOMY immediatly AFTER they claim it was better..... W T F? the whitehouse and the MSNBC mouthpiece, like to report this great wonderful stuff... to find out it wasnt even close to true. might be why i like to read the news, and comment. you can as plain as day, catch them (news/gov) in the bs that does nothing but DEGRADE our nation, and the people, hence for go the clowns. maybe it was dirty reporting back in its day, but at least it was HONEST. there isnt 1 oz of integrity in the media, and in our government to amout to anything. crooks until busted, and we pay them to rip us off, with regulation other than where it belongs. accountability in government? where?? catch the top leaders in lies, scandal, and u name it... and they still get re-elected. pelosi the biggest of them all. we elect congress and senate to run wall street, and any other big market they can dig a finger in off of taxpayer profits.

both said it in the presidential debate... when who had shares in what, and where. if one elected official who serves in the the WH, senate or congress have a finger in some form of $ scam when it comes to spending. from stocks to the buisness in the stocks. they have fingers in it. then we keep electing them. they give themselves a raise even... can i get just 1 of those? just 1!? but still, not afraid of raising taxes across the board... not going to change for middle income, $250,000 yr or less. i remember the 1st time this came out, there was going to be no loophole left to close, flat rate for all. hmmmm, now its "loop holes". Nobama MADE nothing but loop holes with his tax incentive, that we ended up paying major buisness tycoons, such as GE, Lockheed, Boeing... duh? anyone drop a head to the desk cause they forgot about it making the news just months ago? the year before, who made out?

romney has his fingers in shares too.. ryan.. but, the thing is, we can take the better of the 2, so our kids have something. get the industry back on its feet, so we too can be stronger to make a stand for real change, in a peaceful way, rather the way we are heading right now. in case some missed it, the press to the fed reserve bill printing office... never would anyone in their right mind deface the value of the US Dollar when we are in economic straits. to cover debt loss. these are the people the president gave a job to to help run our country. from janet on down the line, one huge costly fail, after fail... incompetent, and unaccountable. things wont change, unless We The People, change them.

US Treasury bonds owned overseas accounted for $6.0 trillion of the national debt - who owns the other $10.0 trillion? Trade imbalance? Foreign Property ownership?

China is the largest foreign owner of US Treasury bonds estimated at $1.153 trillion worth but it's also down 12.6% from last year because China is selling off their treasury bonds. Japan is the next largest at approximately $1.121 trillion worth.

When the world economy stalls, government's bring in less revenue, which means diminished services etc. In order to keep those services going you have to borrow. Now that the economy is showing an uptick...there is no reason for business to continue their hiring freezes, terminations, cuts in production, expansion cuts and reduction in spending etc... It is the inaction of business owners that's could drive another economic stall.

The other issue that we're dealing with in this final stages of the recovery is that half of the country is being fed a bunch of lies by the Republican Party, to the point that they sincerely believe the second coming of Jesus is actually Myth Rmoney.

More people working means people are earning money and buying goods. More people working means the tax burden is spread out and it's impact on the house hold wallet isn't nearly as significant as it is today. When more people are working and earning a paycheck, they usually have a demand that needs to be met...a bill, a new car, whatever. But the end result is this, you pay taxes on those newly purchased goods and those taxes will go to pay Medicare and Medicaid beneficiaries. When people are buying goods, they are helping pay down the deficit because the government doesn't have to borrow. So the concern shouldn't be that the government is spending too much, what you should be doing is pressuring corporate America to get involved and get people to work. Romney is correct when he says that government can't create jobs, but government can create better conditions for business to thrive...they just have to want to get off their collective asses and help move this country forward.

Obama/Biden 2012

Clinton/????? 2016

Hey slappy,

WHO was it that saved the auto industry? WHO was it that took an economy in free fall and now has 31 straight months of job growth? WHOSE party is the only party to put forth job creating legislation in the 'jobs crisis' the GOP claims to care about?

Name ONE thing the GOP has done to improve the economy since Obama took the oath?

TM- The average person who has lost a job finds one within a few months. You make it sound like there are 23 million people who have been looking for a job for years.

BTW: "The average person who has lost a job finds one within a few months. You make it sound like there are 23 million people who have been looking for a job for years."

Do you realize how ignorant and idiotic that statement is??? Millions of long term job seekers have simply GIVEN UP and resigned themselves to the HOPE and CHANGE that Romney / Ryan will provide.

Speaking of Massachusetts, if Romney was such a great governor, why is Obama ahead in that state by twenty points?

Answer: They already saw all they want to see of Wrongme. Self-deport now, Wrongme! There is still time to find a viable candidate.

Hey Starbuck....not involved in the opium sector, but it's cheaper here than in the US.

Hey BTW...really?! Really?! So according to you, there are people just bouncing from job to job and there's really not 23 million people out of work? Tell that to my ex, who has been looking for a job over the past year. You libs must be down to a few brain cells for your thoughts. You must be smoking the weed that Dr "Illogic" is smoking.

TM and moderate, the facts support me. Go look at the data. You need to realize that ten of thousands of people lose their job every day and tens of thousands of people get a job every day. This happens in good times and in bad times. Again- look at the data and don't just spout "23 million out of work" as if everyone out of work is hopeless.

Yes, the average person on unemployment goes off before 18 weeks. This includes those who are going to stay on as long as possible.

BTW, I don't know what you're trying to prove to anyone. So you're right and all the economist and the Labor Dept are wrong and the 23M is just an "imaginary" number. Why is everyone else on here saying 23M like other news outlets are reporting, but you think there's not. If that was the case Obama wouldn't be running scared if unemployment wasn't at 8%.

And what is this with collapsing my comment , if you don't believe me go to the BLS site and look at the data. If you are collapsing the comment because facts bother you then you need to go to another website.

TM, yes I'm right there are not 23 million looking for a job for even 6 months. Economists and the labor bureau agree with me.

Well then BTW, you're holding back something because you seem so sure of yourself but the country isn't behind you on the numbers. You are the ONLY person I heard saying 23M are NOT out of work. Even the politicans on both sides of th aisle are saying there's 23M out of work. So ALL the economists and the LB agree with you? Did they call you, then why the Hell aren't you on one of the Business stations saying 23M aren't out of work. Then where are the majority of people in this country getting 23M? Are we just pulling numbers from thin air and you are the ONLY person right on the numbers. You think mighty high of yourself.

Can you read? I did not say 23M are not out of work. I just said they haven't been out of work for years. The average person who loses his job today will be working in five months.

Numbers and polls can say whatever the author, or it's personal agenda wants them to say. Don't put much stock in them.

BTW,

Who is the average person? Where are they finding work? I have a family member who works for a government employment agency, and she says you are full of that infamous malarkey.

It's nice to know people are feeling better about the end of trickle-down and a second term of Obama. The huge debt, out-sourcing of jobs, and the economic depression they've left behind from the Reagan-Bush Sr.-Bush Jr. era's will just be a distant memory as we balance of federal budget and create jobs again like during the Clinton era, where if Gore and Obama followed him we wouldn't have had war's and also might have paid off our national debt with the surpluses.....hard to believe that Republican policy is responsible for all 16 trillion but at least we will never have to see them in the White House again.

Obama/Biden 2012

BTW -

The BLS says the labor participation rate is at its lowest in 30 years.

The BLS says there are 5 million FEWER people in the work force today that when BHO took office, primarily due to frustrated / discouraged workers dropping from the workforce - whose unemployment payments have run out.

The BLS said something like 9 million Americans are UNDEREMPLOYED - or work part time but WANT full time employment.

General growth in the US population over the Obama presidency has been about 5,000,000 people.

The government admits to "7.8% unemployment".

Oh yea, "BTW", Americans being accepted into the SSI Disability is happening at an all-time record rate... They don't show on any negative labor indicator... Coincidence?

Add all this together and we end up with 23 million Americans out of work because they stopped looking for work due to discouragement, there are no jobs for them at all, or they are unemployed or UNDERemployed.

The BLS paints a horrible situation. To cherry pick the data to find evidence in support of OBAMA is appalling! Where I come from, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck, WE CALL IT A DUCK!

At what point in history did Americans decide 23 MILLION other Americans being unable to put food on their tables was OK???????? "BTW", this is where the 50% increaseof food stamp recipients comes from...

Mattfromwash:

Don't you need a budget before you can balance it? As I recall Obama has not had the time to even get one of those drawn up in the last 4 years...

Moderate in Madison,

I don't know what country you are talking about, but unemployment benefits in the US have an extension for 99 weeks do to the poor outlook on jobs. That's multiple 'few months to find a job'.

My friend has a Masters Degree from USC (the one in California) and he's been unemployed since 2009. My wife is currently unemployed. Other people are working 2 days a week or multiple part-time jobs and or for far less money than what they were making just to stay afloat.

And for all the yippies out there who liked Obama bailing out the auto industry the way he did. Guess what? Chrysler was bailed out in the 1980s and again into 2010. I guess we'll go through this in another 30 years or maybe fewer.

"Concerndone -

"At what point in history did Americans decide 23 MILLION other Americans being unable to put food on their tables was OK???????? "BTW", this is where the 50% increaseof food stamp recipients comes from..."

At the point where you elected/re-elected those two idiots the shrub and "debts don't matter" cheney that put those 23 million people out of work with the gop rape and pillage economics they endorsed(and still do). And willard's business bain capitol is continuing it's outsourcing of middle class American jobs(Sensata) to china.

To President Obamas credit, he has already got YOUR mess half cleaned up even though the republican party obstructed every pece of legislation like the SuperCommittee in which Boehnor admitted getting 98% of what the gop wanted but wouldn't sign off on because of his pledge to lobbyist Grover Norquist. How sad is that? The gop is a disgrace and should just step aside because everybody wants to continue to move the country forward and finish cleaning up the depression the republicans put us in. Will be waiting for you at the finish line.

Here are a few things to remember when you vote this week.

16 TRILLION in debt, and going up.

Government spending $1.40 for every $1. that comes in via taxes (Credit card from the bank of china)

More people on food stamps, welfare and gov assistance than EVER BEFORE

the most people out of work for the longest sustained period of time since the depression (What’s that three letter word? J O B S )

4 Americans murdered in Libya, and obama knew what was going on and then lied about it.

Boarder patrol agent murdered with gun from failed obama/holder op, fast and furious

535 Million tax payer dollars to Solyandra

Tax payers money to ABC Battery

This is NOT what recovery looks like

BTW I know a whole union full of electricians and pipe fitters and other contractors who have been on unemployment for 99 weeks. Now most have come off of it but that doesn't mean they got a job it means their unemployment ran out and they not longer get counter (cuz that would totally mess up the numbers, dude). Those who have been out of work for more than 6 months have a really hard time finding work again...ever. Those over a certain age and out for that long are really screwed.

Hey slappy,

WHO was it that saved the auto industry? WHO was it that took an economy in free fall and now has 31 straight months of job growth? WHOSE party is the only party to put forth job creating legislation in the 'jobs crisis' the GOP claims to care about?

Name ONE thing the GOP has done to improve the economy since Obama took the oath?

OK they blocked him from totally running this country in to the ground and that's why where only at 16 trillion and not 22 trillion

And Obama did not save GM The Us tax payers did and who here really thinks GM is really saved?

American people feel better about the economy, but they don't feel better about the over Importation of goods from CHINA,FREE TRADE, NAFTA, container ports running at 100% it makes me sick.

The President didn't create the environment that currently has 23 million unemployed. Deregulation of several of our most vital industries allowed business to play with your money and health. Who are the champions of deregulation? Republicans! There is no amount of deregulation that would benefit the economy...but the there is a constant argument against the process and the main argument against any type of regulation is that it costs too much. So lets talk about costs:

Water Pollution - the illegal dumping of toxic chemicals which invades the water and poisons your wife, grandfather, kids and husbands. Cost: Family members die.

Health Insurance - cancel insurance or deny medical claims because the toxic water you drank and bathed in caused you and your entire family some form of terminal cancer. Cost: Family members die faster physically and because they weren't given any options - they died emotionally.

Hospitals - turn away people who drank and bathed in the toxic water because they exceeded their coverage cap. Cost: Family members die in extreme pain and anguish.

Business - pay all of their executives grand salaries and bonuses, however the company fails because they gambled poorly on your investment. The company goes bankrupt and out of business and thousands of employees are sent to the unemployment lines. Cost: Family members give in to dispair and some go to the extreme and kill themselves.

I can continue to talk about the costs of deregulation, but it's not going to change Republicans minds. For the rest, Democrats, Independents and Undecided - just remember how we got where we were 4 years ago. It is getting better, but we, not just the President, have more work to do. We have bad policies that Republicans put in place and operated this country on over an 8 year period that need to be evaluated, fixed and if necessary, rescinded, by common sense politicians. Trust me, it's going to take another 8 years just to get our country solvent again and Republicans have demonstrated over the last 12 years that they are not up to the task.

Obama/Biden 2012

&

Clinton/????? 2016

Randy 802370 -- I admire you for bringing up NAFTA. And who signed NAFTA? Bill Clinton did -- two months before leaving office. The Dems say the Republican Congress would have made it happen anyway. But who knows? It was drawn up during the first George Bush's term, but he refused to sign it. Clinton sold us to China with his signing of NAFTA. The second George Bush walked into what had to become a disaster insofar as jobs and the economy was concerned due to NAFTA. And Obama blames Bush????? My 11-year-old grandson informed me that China owns the U.S. I only know there has been a lot of outsourcing (which accounts for a lot of job losses).

If you have ever sold real estate, insurance, or taken a course in economy, you know everything depends on supply and demand. Jobs, or lack of jobs, depend on demand. The demand for jobs in this country (especially in manufacturing) dropped drastically, and the supply was being sent to us from other countries due to lower wages and lack of regulations in the building sector in these countries. Supposedly, we could afford to purchase the product at a cheaper price. Oursourcing is killing us, so to speak. We need to bring our jobs back into this country, or at least charge the companies who are having factories, etc. built in these foreign countries a high enough fee that they feel the impact. I'm like NaughtyMossy, I'm not the "sharpest tool in the shed", but I've been around long enough to see what has happened.

No matter how you try to spin it, the picture painted by the latest BLS report is that employment is improving.

Here is a relevant portion of the BLS report, THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- SEPTEMBER 2012

The unemployment rate decreased to 7.8 percent in September, and total nonfarm
payroll employment rose by 114,000, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported
today. Employment increased in health care and in transportation and warehousing
but changed little in most other major industries.

Household Survey Data

The unemployment rate declined by 0.3 percentage point to 7.8 percent in September.
For the first 8 months of the year, the rate held within a narrow range of 8.1
and 8.3 percent. The number of unemployed persons, at 12.1 million, decreased by
456,000 in September. (See table A-1.)

Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates for adult men (7.3 percent),
adult women (7.0 percent), and whites (7.0 percent) declined over the month.
The unemployment rates for teenagers (23.7 percent), blacks (13.4 percent), and
Hispanics (9.9 percent) were little changed. The jobless rate for Asians, at
4.8 percent (not seasonally adjusted), fell over the year. (See tables A-1, A-2,
and A-3.)

In September, the number of job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs
decreased by 468,000 to 6.5 million. (See table A-11.)

The number of persons unemployed for less than 5 weeks declined by 302,000 over
the month to 2.5 million. The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for
27 weeks or more) was little changed at 4.8 million and accounted for 40.1
percent of the unemployed. (See table A-12.)

Total employment rose by 873,000 in September, following 3 months of little
change. The employment-population ratio increased by 0.4 percentage point to
58.7 percent, after edging down in the prior 2 months. The overall trend in
the employment-population ratio for this year has been flat. The civilian labor
force rose by 418,000 to 155.1 million in September, while the labor force
participation rate was little changed at 63.6 percent. (See table A-1.)

The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes
referred to as involuntary part-time workers) rose from 8.0 million in August
to 8.6 million in September. These individuals were working part time because
their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time
job. (See table A-8.)

In September, 2.5 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force,
essentially unchanged from a year earlier. (These data are not seasonally
adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were
available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months.
They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work
in the 4 weeks preceding the survey. (See table A-16.)

Among the marginally attached, there were 802,000 discouraged workers in
September, a decline of 235,000 from a year earlier. (These data are not
seasonally adjusted.) Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking
for work because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining
1.7 million persons marginally attached to the labor force in September had
not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey for reasons such
as school attendance or family responsibilities. (See table A-16.)

Dr. Logic, If you tried to sell that garbage to a donkey, he'd kick your head off. Are the democrats so afraid of being wrong that they'll starve just to keep their man in office? The biggest difference between the two parties is that the Republican's lies are brought to light by the democrats. The democrats will lie and know that you know they're lying, and still swear to it. Pathological liars are the ones who need their heads examined. I'm voting a STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN ticket because I refuse to lower my standards and insult my intelligence.

Hey Doc,

what do you mean 4 years? The republicans have only been in control of the House for 2 years.Let me turn this thing around for you. You would have to be crazy, literally, to vote democrat after what they have done in the last six years, since they had control over the last two years of the Bush administration, and blocked everything Bush wanted to do.

Doc.. you are absolutely right... you already have 2 crazies above who cried foul...LOL! They will not admit it... That is a typical of the GOP... UNINFORMED!!!

What insanity! Your lib administration has killed the economy with communist baloney, and you still support them? If you're a doc, you have even greater reason to support the GOP. Do you really want the Feds taking over you profession? The definition of insanity is to keep repeating the same flawed action expecting a different outcome--that's Oblabla!

ProudWestVirginianh + engbers

Wow..... don't wanna touch that topic do you? The obfuscation and unwillingness to compromise led by Mitch McConnell and his minions is one of the anti ethical and treasonous campaigns set forth by elected officials in my lifetime. They without a doubt put party before country and more so, put party before the people.

But keep sucking up their spilled milk of distortion. It's the only trickle down you'll still have after this election is decided.

Ha ha ha Oh man. It looks like all McCarthyism needed to stick around was a new generation of brain dead, paranoid, and delusional slobs. Bravo to you right wing scumbags, you fit the profile perfectly!

It's getting more and more pathetic the more and more desperate the right wingers get, I love it!

Right wingers...the self-hating welfare recipients who hate any and all good news for the country.

Here are a few things to remember when you vote this week.

16 TRILLION in debt, and going up.

Government spending $1.40 for every $1. that comes in via taxes (Credit card from the bank of china)

More people on food stamps, welfare and gov assistance than EVER BEFORE

the most people out of work for the longest sustained period of time since the depression (What’s that three letter word? J O B S )

4 Americans murdered in Libya, and obama knew what was going on and then lied about it.

Boarder patrol agent murdered with gun from failed obama/holder op, fast and furious

535 Million tax payer dollars to Solyandra

Tax payers money to ABC Battery

This is NOT what recovery looks like

Here are a few things to remember when you vote this week.

16 TRILLION in debt, and going up.

Government spending $1.40 for every $1. that comes in via taxes (Credit card from the bank of china)

More people on food stamps, welfare and gov assistance than EVER BEFORE

the most people out of work for the longest sustained period of time since the depression (What’s that three letter word? J O B S )

4 Americans murdered in Libya, and obama knew what was going on and then lied about it.

Boarder patrol agent murdered with gun from failed obama/holder op, fast and furious

535 Million tax payer dollars to Solyandra

Tax payers money to ABC Battery

This is NOT what recovery looks like

I agree flyingfarm... I voted "feel better" not because President Obama has done anything... it more that since the recession and my pay (COLA) has been frozen for 3 yrs, I focused in getting some debts paid off (while creating othere but not too large) so overall my economic outlook is better but it is the same "income"... prices are the same and gas is killing me.

I do account for some of the good feelings as people see Nov.6 as a new beginning and look forward to a new Presidency.

A change in DC will be greatly appreciated... both in the Oval Office and in the Senate....

Maybe this fresh change will bring term limits too! Can anyone argue the fact that Harry Reid and Joe Biden are two politicians thathave lost a couple steps over the years?

I do account for some of the good feelings as people see Nov.6 as a new beginning and look forward to a new Presidency.

LOL

Yeah and I attribute your thinking that to a lack of good public schools. :)

I have no proof either so my opinion is as valid as yours now. :D

I've heard the same about the stock markets and am happy for those that had money to invest. I'm still a tad bitter about my losses in the crash, but I would have just squandered that money like I did with the rest on Rx's and healthcare.

I'm still a tad bitter about my losses in the crash,

What happened? I have gotten all my money back?

Because in your area house are selling only means that population still growing , house industry will never be static , people need food, clothes and a roof , because we continue buying food or clothes , it doesn't mean the economy is better.

When you go to vote...remember ..Romney hired 17 of 24 of his advisers from the Bush Cheney regime....those same 17 helped Bush Cheney lie the nation into war killing thousands of our troops, wounding thousands more and still dying, and destroyed our economy not paying for the war.

These very same war mongers did help to get Cheney's company, Haliburton, NO BID CONTRACTS...BLOOD FOR WAR PROFITS! Republicons as usual chickenhawks. Vote against the same failed Romney/Bush/Cheney team. Why vote for the same failed Bush team?

Soldiers, veterans and their families want no more needless dying for war profits. Romney the coward ran away to France during Viet Nam war days, now he wants more war profits for the greedy rich 1%. This coward has no business running for president when he ran away from the first chance he had to protect our country!

Vote president Obama/Biden and team America 2012

Repubs blocked the bill on 7-19-12 to end tax breaks on companies that take American jobs overeses.

Repubs blocked the bill on 7-19-12 to give tax breaks to companies that would bring american jobs back to America.

WHY?

Romney and the rich 1% make a great profit using American tax breaks, American jobs and know how, give them to China and other foreign countries working for pennies.

Romney and greedy rich hide those profits in off shore accounts to avoid paying taxes

Romney could not be more UN American. Selling America piece by piece....for $$$$$$$

Notice how republicons cheer when something goes wrong for the country?

Notice how angry republicons get when something good happens to the country?

Republicons including Paul Ryan pledged against the country.

Republicons took the Grover Norquist pledge never to raise taxes on the rich.....

Republicons blocked the bill that would end taking American jobs overseas..

Notice the pattern ?

Republicons are angry that President Obama and Team America killed Bin Laden..

Notice the pattern?

Vote for President Obama/Biden and team America...Real Americans for Real Americans.

If the Economy were improving, why are there still 23,000,000 people out of work, looking for jobs, and standing in long lines. Jobs to fill for the overqualified. College Graduates still for as long as a a couple of years haven't been able to find careers, or other types of work.

Much of the original work force have stopped looking for current work, living off Government Programs.

If the Economy were so good, why is the housing Market still selling houses for way under the value of the homes?, continuing Foreclosures/no credit?--

People still have to "Eat". Much of the Country is still scraping by---Food Banks are asking for Donations.

The Economy is not back, but "Personal Necessities" still have to be purchased.

The Middle Class is still in dire straits; look around at your family members.

JUST STATING FACTS....REPUBS PLEDGE TO TAKE THE ECONOMY DOWN, AND PRESIDENT OBAMA AND TEAM AMERICA REVERSED THE REPUBLICAN CRASH DESPITE RECORD AMOUNT OF FILIBUSTERS TRYING TO PREVENT IT HAPPENING.

Yes the republicans are desperate, creating voter suppression laws to prevent the very people who would vote against them from voting!

Repubs brag how they will kill ACA healthcare, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the post Office, keep shipping American jobs over seas........just to privatize everything they can for the greedy 1%.

So desperate Rove, ALEC and republicons create the voter suppression laws targeting the elderly, the middle class,the young, the poor, the disabled...anyone who would vote against the greedy republicons.

Republicons so desperate they resort to rigging the elections again and are caught at it.

Vote President Obama/Biden and Team America...America is getting better despite the attempts of republicons trying to crash the economy.

The amount of student debt has increased to record levels during President Obama’s administration despite longstanding promises to tackle the problem, according to a report by the College Board Advocacy and Policy Center.

According to the report, “borrowing grew more rapidly from 2005-06 to 2010-11 than it had during the preceding five years.” Both borrowers and graduates picked up debt beyond the rate of inflation.

The report found that “debt per borrower grew at an average annual rate of 2.1 percent beyond inflation and average debt per graduate grew at an average annual rate of 2.7 percent.” Compare those numbers to 1.4 percent and 2.5 percent, in the time between 2000-01 and 2005-06.

Tuition costs for all types of higher education have hit record highs. The average tuition for a 4-year public university has risen from $6,865 when Obama took office to $8,655 for the 2012-13 school year.

Senator John Thune (R., S.D.), chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, blamed President Obama’s policies for the “bleak economic outlook” that young Americans face.

“President Obama’s failed economic policies resulted in 43 straight months of unemployment above eight percent since the start of his administration,” Thune told the Free Beacon.

“Twenty-three million Americans are unemployed or underemployed and nearly five million Americans have been out of work for over a year,” he said.

“The fact that 50 percent of recent college graduates remain unemployed or underemployed is unacceptable.”

Thune outlined an economic plan to help recent graduates. “By providing tax certainty for our job creators and eliminating excessive government red tape and regulations on our employers, we can get Americans back to work,” he said.

Generation Opportunity, a non-partisan, non-profit youth polling organization, found that young people care more about jobs than college debt.

In a July 27 to July 31 poll of 1,003 young adults, the organization discovered that 64 percent of those surveyed “believe the availability of more quality, full-time jobs upon graduation is more important than lower student loan interest rates.”

Twenty-six percent of those surveyed said that they delayed “pay[ing] off student loans or other debt” due to the bad state of the economy.

I see your brain transplant didn't work out too good starsailing !!

starsailing is sailing South.

Name calling a sign of desperation when there is no argument to defend your Messiah who promise to slow raise of the Oceans , the Messiah who promise a new land of transparency, 5 % of unemployment and a balanced budget. Obama wave in his hand a "new Plan" but here is nothing new in there, is empty of new positives ideas. There is no promises of bipartisan job, there is no promises of transparency anymore, no promises to reduce the number of people on welfare , actually his policies lower the bar for welfare recipients. His plan is four more of the same, a recipe for disaster.

Romney 2012

It is truly sad that Obama is cutting health benefits for active duty and retired Veterans but not touching civilian Union workers health benefits. We don't need 4 more years of this change. And I definitely am not going FORWARD....... Off A Cliff.

The President and his cabinet Lying about the Ambassadors murder is the straw that broke the camels back.

Vote them all out.

Chrisbunch of numbers....yes so because of the republican and greedy wallstreet and banksters crashing the economy, prices for student debt is going up.

SO WHY DID REPUBLICANS TRY TO MAKE THE LOW INTEREST RATES GO TO HIGHER RATE????

Republicans wanted the interest rate for students to go higher to stop the economic recovery and to give more profits to themselves..

Republicons were expose on national tv once more and finally caved in to keep interest rate at the same low rate.

Why do republicons create voter suppression laws against students and the young?

To keep students from voting for their own own self interests. Republicons did studies and found that students tend to vote for Democrats, so repubs set up series of laws to try and stop students from voting all over the nation!

Vote president Obama/Biden and Team America 2012 protect the young and students rights!

Woman of steel.....your same lie as before....Ryan plan CUTS benefits to vets to pay for the tax breaks for the rich.......your lies debunked many times...

Repubs just voted against a jobs bill for returning soldiers because they want to cause hell for all Americans as they pledged the night President Obama took office.

Greedy Romney hired 17 of 24 of Bush advisers for his team. The same failed team that sent thousands of soldiers to their deaths for war profits. These same Romney advisers helped to lie the nation into Iraq war for war profits.

Vote President Obama/Biden and team America, protect our vets, they protected us!

Here are a few things to remember when you vote this week.

16 TRILLION in debt, and going up.

Government spending $1.40 for every $1. that comes in via taxes (Credit card from the bank of china)

More people on food stamps, welfare and gov assistance than EVER BEFORE

the most people out of work for the longest sustained period of time since the depression (What’s that three letter word? J O B S )

4 Americans murdered in Libya, and obama knew what was going on and then lied about it.

Boarder patrol agent murdered with gun from failed obama/holder op, fast and furious

535 Million tax payer dollars to Solyandra

Tax payers money to ABC Battery

This is NOT what recovery looks like

Republicons took the Grover Norquist pledge never to raise taxes on the rich.....

I would say they are wrong and the democrats are right repealing the bush tax cuts would save the economy they have not helped it. This expiration of the bush tax cuts would change the people not paying federal income taxes from 47% to 15% This would help so many people and the spending would save the US.

Because in your area house are selling only means that population still growing , house industry will never be static , people need food, clothes and a roof , because we continue buying food or clothes , it doesn't mean the economy is better.

Generally speaking, when the housing market improves, yes it does. It's a leading economic indicator. That's just a fact.

There is very little new constrution going on it's the sale of existing houses that is propping it up. You have to jump barrels & hoops to get a loan. We called our banker to get our loans refinanced & consolidated as my job is gone & my wife had to close her business. We have 11 investment home rentals that we are paying the mortgages on in 3 different loans that we only owed $187k on combined. They sent us a foreclosure notice after that the 1st. time we were late in 26 yrs of doing business.

Don't forget that oblamo has a Laser Beam for jobs program ..

And its worked about as well as his last 3 summers of recovery...lol

No oblamo 2012

sdc....No...IGNORANCE pisses any logical and intelligent person off, which obviously DOESN'T include yourself or Doc Illogical.

If it weren't for the Republican's blocking obama's reckless spending, the country would be in much worse shape....

Barry's $6trillion of new debt in less than 3 years is something any shop alcoholic would be proud of.... Get rid of obama and replace him with fiscal responsibility and planning... that would be Mitt Romney!

O'bama's policies: "Blame, blame and boo hoo. "I don't have any failed policies." " Nasty old Republicans did it all." Of course he doesn't have any ideas about how to fix things either. Who else gives 3 year work permits to people from another country when he doesn't have enough jobs for his own people? And he said himself that we don't need unskilled labor jobs in this country. Sure he doesn't. Because if he pushes the middle class down to lower class, and then gets the upper class in his pocket, then he has total control. Can control where people travel with gas prices, can control what people say or know with media, can control what we eat through price control. But he still can't convince intelligent people that he's telling the truth. Because guess what folks, he ain't.

Doctor Logic: Finaly some logic and less empty headed namecalling by the guys who helped destroy our economy with their sad self-identification with the very rich -- not too self aware.

but please allow me to stem the tide of talk about the racist remarks about General Colin Powell. It was and is a clever strategy to deflect everyone's attention from Powell's serious message to all Americans. all Americans should be parsing his words before they vote.

CBSNews: In his endorsement (of President Barack Obama) Powell said, "When he took over, the country was in very, very difficult straits, we were in one of the worst recessions we had seen in recent times, close to a depression . . . we were in real trouble."

Colin Powell also cited the recent housing market pickup, the auto industry recovery and rising consumer confidence. "I think generally we've come out of the dive and starting to gain altitude," he said. "I see that we are starting to rise up," Powell said, while also acknowledging that problems such as unemployment and the housing market still have a ways to go, but that we are on the right track.

I also saw the president get us out of one war, start to get us out of a second war, and did not get us into any new wars," Powell added. "The actions that he has taken with respect to protecting us from terrorism have been very, very solid."

Powell also accused Romney of changing his foreign policy positions in recent months. "I think there are some very, very strong neoconservative
views that are presented by the governor that I have some trouble with,"
Powell said. General Colin Powell also said he is very concerned that Romney's neocon associates could maneuver us into a
war with Iran; . . . that they would welcome a "new, inexperienced, weak president they can maneuver”...as Powell says they did Bush, Jr.

Nuf said. This white woman will race the storm to the voting booth as fast as I can to cast an early vote for the black man who will take care of me and our families.. I recognize a racist remark used as a strategy to keep us from thinking about General Powell's important statements and I say to He** with that stuff. One more early vote for Obama

b

Keep telling yourself that Politico Journo. Maybe eventually you'll believe it. Doesn't take much to convince gullible liberals. However, we will feel sorry for you trying to feed that family over the next four years on more o'bama promises. If you really believe that race plays no part in the reason for Colin Powell backing him, then I have some prime swampland to sell you. Its amazing. The liberals are willing to starve in order to keep from appearing wrong. Makes nooooooooo sense whatsoever. If you want to live under a dictatorship, keep thinking the way you are. You'll be there sooner than you think.

Keep telling yourself that Politico Journo. Maybe eventually you'll believe it. Doesn't take much to convince gullible liberals. However, we will feel sorry for you trying to feed that family over the next four years on more o'bama promises. If you really believe that race plays no part in the reason for Colin Powell backing him, then I have some prime swampland to sell you. Its amazing. The liberals are willing to starve in order to keep from appearing wrong. Makes nooooooooo sense whatsoever. If you want to live under a dictatorship, keep thinking the way you are. You'll be there sooner than you think.

Politico Journo, while what Powell said is true, there is no correlation between that truth and Obama's policies having anything to do with those truths. We may have been better off now if Obama didn't waste trillions of dollars on temporary jobs and who knows the true future costs of Obamanation Care. We got out of Iraq on Bush's time schedule, not Obama's. Obama didn't get us in any new wars, but the Middle East is in turmoil and we're waging a proxy war with Syria. So go ahead race to place that vote since it all comes down to what share of the handout you can get from money Obama borrowed from China. One more vote bought by the Democrats who would rather see you on the government dole, than self sufficient. Once on the government teat, they can always count on your vote to stay there.

Doctor Logic we do not need more "jobs bills" the government paying people to perform a job is still using TAX PAYER MONEY. We need private sector growth that way we will be getting money from taxes and less people on government assistance. Thank GOD they blocked more SPENDING JOBS BILLS, or we would face even higher debt.

Here are a few things to remember when you vote this week.

16 TRILLION in debt, and going up.

Government spending $1.40 for every $1. that comes in via taxes (Credit card from the bank of china)

More people on food stamps, welfare and gov assistance than EVER BEFORE

the most people out of work for the longest sustained period of time since the depression (What’s that three letter word? J O B S )

4 Americans murdered in Libya, and obama knew what was going on and then lied about it.

Boarder patrol agent murdered with gun from failed obama/holder op, fast and furious

535 Million tax payer dollars to Solyandra

Tax payers money to ABC Battery

This is NOT what recovery looks like

The House voted 414-0 and the senate voted 99-0 against Obama's last budget plan. I guess all the democrats "purposely sabotaged the economy to win" their own congressional elections and be obstructionists too.

If you can do it with nothing more than name calling Moderate (lol) then all the power to you. If you can do it, the country is clearly in tough shape. Anyone who votes to go back to the idea of trickle down economics and thinks this time it will work is insane. If Romney wins it will be proof that the inmates are running the asylum and there will be little left to hope!

I noticed in the polling data, no one in the private sector was polled ? ... Only Government Union Employees.

Of course Government Employees feel better, they make 400% more than the average American and instead of working 50 years before retirement ... Government Employees only have to work 25 year ... instead of having to set aside their own $ out of their own pay check for retirement like the private sector, Government Employees are just given a Guaranteed retirement without contributing ONE G D DIME ....

Hey America ... do you ever feel like a G D puttz

We the PEOPLE are not doing better off now......NBC is lying to get Obama Re-elected. How can we do better with less savings and higher prices and a clueless Obama at the Helm of the U.S.S. TITANIC.

Its a FACT that all the left wing media, team Obama promoters actually WATCH FOX NEWS to see the unfiltered TRUTH that Team Obama News will not broadcast.

I'm sorry that your own personal situation is not going well, but that does not mean that for most people things are not better.

BTW........23 MILLION Jobless.....$6 Trillion ADDITIONAL NATIONAL DEBT over less than 4 Years..........Manipulated Inflation, GDP, and Jobless Rates reported by the most Deceptive Administration of ALL Times......Millions of "Not so Shovel Ready Jobs" laughed at by Obozo......Benghazi Cover-Up......If ANYTHING looks better it is the PROBABILITY that the reign of your Smiling Cheshire cat POYUS and the "Doggie Dentures" VPOTUS is nearing its' END. Romney / Ryan for a Better America 2012 AND 2016.

BTW, the illegal immigrants are totally tickled with O'bama's policies, and probably the chinese too, after that stupid statement he made about Americans not needing unskilled labor jobs. Call me Kooky, but he's supposed to be president of the United States of America. So why does he hold such blatant contempt for the natural born and hard working citizens of the United States? How do you trust someone who lies so blatantly and doesn't even try to make it convincing? Please don't insult the intelligence of the rest of us by trying to force us to believe what we know for a fact isn't true. Its just a matter of common decency and respect.

Proud - you're kooky. After Romney's condemnation of the majority of Americans ( most of us are in one of his worthless 47% piles.)

How can two articles be like this side to side? Doesn't MSNBC also have articles about: Employers being picky and cheap? Or how unemployment drags on?

http://lifeinc.today.com/_news/2012/10/26/14721474-jobseekers-on-employers-slow-picky-cheap-annoying

http://lifeinc.today.com/_news/2012/10/26/14699000-workers-face-tough-choice-as-unemployment-drags-on

This article is pure proganda for Obama.

Vote Romney/Ryan!

RIGHTWINGER SCREWBALLY....YOUR MONIKER FITS!

You play the same card as your lying leader....apparantly you could care less you are calling millions of vets and soldiers the 47% Romney doesn't care about.....

Thanks for showing Romneys base once more......the lying greedy rich.

What is really funny is if Romney got elected you would be paying for all the tax breaks he will be giving himself and the rich. Your health care will be non existing and too expensive, you will have NO retirement as Romney kills social security.....and today we see Romney reminding the nation he wants to kill FEMA!..................Romney for a worse tomorrow today!

This is just a fluff piece for obama. There is no way we are better off. I have a hard time beliving MSNBC thinks we are total idiots. Don't they realize that most people know the truth. Maybe it is better for those on welfare who probably have gotten a raise under obama. I work for a living and haven't seen a raise since 2003 and all the while prices on EVERYTHING have gone up! For more years of obama and all the working people of America will be filing bankruptsy.

GLCSR.....don't blame President Obama...blame your republicons who pledged to take the economy down to prevent President Obama from having a second term.

Record amount of filibusters and no votes prove it!

Here are a few things to remember when you vote this week.

16 TRILLION in debt, and going up.

Government spending $1.40 for every $1. that comes in via taxes (Credit card from the bank of china)

More people on food stamps, welfare and gov assistance than EVER BEFORE

the most people out of work for the longest sustained period of time since the depression (What’s that three letter word? J O B S )

4 Americans murdered in Libya, and obama knew what was going on and then lied about it.

Boarder patrol agent murdered with gun from failed obama/holder op, fast and furious

535 Million tax payer dollars to Solyandra

Tax payers money to ABC Battery

This is NOT what recovery looks like

Greggy....did you know that when you do search on .....Fox news dumber....you see actual studies that show people who watch Fox news are actually dumber after watching ! So do search on ...fox news dumber...see for yourself!

....apparantly you could care less you are calling millions of vets and soldiers the 47% Romney doesn't care about.....

I think they should let the bush tax cuts expire to raise taxes that will make the 47% to 15% this would make the disabled vets more patriotic as Biden said if you don't pay taxes your not a patriot.

In the first two years of Obama and company......No Cost of Living Adjustments ....o% In 2012 a mere 3.6 % and next year 1.7 %. In case you think thats a lot for seniors, its only 1.3 % each year. Nexy year we get about $ 12.00 to $ 14.00 a month and what about Medicare premiums going up ? How does this help towards higher prices for everything ?

Oblamos OWN people cant approve his budget...? That should tell you

something is fishy with oblamo...lol

Joseph- did you really expect for health care costs to not increase? When has this ever happened?

The majority of those who want a job will find one within 5 months, that's a long time but they should be OK. If you don't get an increase in Social Security it is because there is low inflation, that's a good thing.

BTW, sorry I don't believe you because I have two sons, one in roofing industry who cannot get a job because the jobs have all gone to illegal immigrants and he supports himself by flipping burgers because he is ineligible for government assistance. My younger son does odd jobs because in desperation a pizza hut manager hired him for 2 hours a week and he spent more money to get to work than he could make. To add insult to injury, this knocked him out of unemployment benefits, and he isn't eligible for a food stamp card like the illegal immigrants receive, so we must make sure he can still eat. So tell me where your pres is doing such a great job. The fact is, the only way you can tell me he's doing a good job is to do the same thing he is doing every day. Lie, swear to it and command everybody to pretend to believe it.

Just want one answer? How did those 26 million get on foodstamps, become unemployed? Whos values and ideals crashed the economy. I'm not taking about a person, but their values....that would be a republican, low taxes(even though we started two wars), trickle down, no regulations...that is what it got us. Obama has been trying to undue the the republican party and Bush got the country into in 8 years. You all like to say Obama spent this and that. Well take out the cost of the two wars, and the bail out that Bush started and what do you get. Why do you all just ignore those facts?

If you are currently employed you better be polishing your boss' shoes every day because it is tough out here. You have to be GOD to get a job these days and I am not GOD. I am human and I have flaws. Just trying to stay afloat in a very, very bad time and place.

Proud, I'm just giving the national average. Everyone's situation is different. You have to give Obama credit for deporting more illegal immigrants than Bush did. The President has encouraged that post high school training be available to everyone which sounds like maybe what your sons need. Illegal immigrants are not eligible for food stamps.

I agree! This article seems to be wishful thinking only. I don't see how people can be "blind" to the major issues our nations faces in the economy, national debt, job market, government assistance programs, and relation with the rest of the world. This article is just "putting lipstick on a pig". lol

Repubs pledged to obstruct the economy getting better and they did....

Now the same supporters of the obstructionists bitch about the economy not getting better fast enough....

Then these same whiners want to reward the republicons who are trying to stop the recovery by ....voting for them......DDDDDUUUUUHHHH!!!!!!!

Here are a few things to remember when you vote this week.

16 TRILLION in debt, and going up.

Government spending $1.40 for every $1. that comes in via taxes (Credit card from the bank of china)

More people on food stamps, welfare and gov assistance than EVER BEFORE

the most people out of work for the longest sustained period of time since the depression (What’s that three letter word? J O B S )

4 Americans murdered in Libya, and obama knew what was going on and then lied about it.

Boarder patrol agent murdered with gun from failed obama/holder op, fast and furious

535 Million tax payer dollars to Solyandra

Tax payers money to ABC Battery

This is NOT what recovery looks like

Genius add the the same and worse together!!!!! Dear God!!!!!

The amount of student debt has increased to record levels during President Obama’s administration despite longstanding promises to tackle the problem, according to a report by the College Board Advocacy and Policy Center.

According to the report, “borrowing grew more rapidly from 2005-06 to 2010-11 than it had during the preceding five years.” Both borrowers and graduates picked up debt beyond the rate of inflation.

The report found that “debt per borrower grew at an average annual rate of 2.1 percent beyond inflation and average debt per graduate grew at an average annual rate of 2.7 percent.” Compare those numbers to 1.4 percent and 2.5 percent, in the time between 2000-01 and 2005-06.

Tuition costs for all types of higher education have hit record highs. The average tuition for a 4-year public university has risen from $6,865 when Obama took office to $8,655 for the 2012-13 school year.

Senator John Thune (R., S.D.), chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, blamed President Obama’s policies for the “bleak economic outlook” that young Americans face.

“President Obama’s failed economic policies resulted in 43 straight months of unemployment above eight percent since the start of his administration,” Thune told the Free Beacon.

“Twenty-three million Americans are unemployed or underemployed and nearly five million Americans have been out of work for over a year,” he said.

“The fact that 50 percent of recent college graduates remain unemployed or underemployed is unacceptable.”

Thune outlined an economic plan to help recent graduates. “By providing tax certainty for our job creators and eliminating excessive government red tape and regulations on our employers, we can get Americans back to work,” he said.

Generation Opportunity, a non-partisan, non-profit youth polling organization, found that young people care more about jobs than college debt.

In a July 27 to July 31 poll of 1,003 young adults, the organization discovered that 64 percent of those surveyed “believe the availability of more quality, full-time jobs upon graduation is more important than lower student loan interest rates.”

Twenty-six percent of those surveyed said that they delayed “pay[ing] off student loans or other debt” due to the bad state of the economy.

We have 5.6% unemployment here in Iowa. There is an oil boom and hiring in the Dakotas. Perhaps some of you should look elsewhere and look beyond your state's borders. Of course Romney wants to cut the wind energy subsidies so the booming wind energy business will take a hit here if he is elected. You can put the blame all you want on Obama,but a lot of businesses are making more profits and not hiring you until after the first of the year. Then there will be a business boom in January right after the election especially if Romney wins and then the Republicans can take all of the credit for the sudden burst in growth of the economy. Republican business men and CEO's are holding you hostage, because the enduring message from Republican leaders in Congress is, "Our goal is to make Obama a one term president!" Since 2010 they have put the clamps on helping the economy. Why don't you apply at one of Mr. Adelson's casinos. He seems to have millions to throw around (100M) trying to oust Obama. Do you suppose he pays benefits?

j.d. in Iowa.......you got it right......Keep coming to Minnesota for our walleyes and lakes......Best drinking buddies during Gopher/Hawks games....!

Romney pledged to go back to all the failed plans of Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeldt when he hired 17 of 24 Bush advisers....

WHY? Because they made such a profit from war and Romney wants in on it!

Obama to cut healthcare benefits for active duty and retired US military.

The Obama administrations' proposed defense budget calls for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workers' benefits untouched.Us veterans will give the President his pink slip next week.

If your retirement account is not making any money, you need to look at your investments. Most people's retirement accounts have done very well recently.

Yeah, you'd think with the market doubling over the past four years that your investments would be doing better. I'd strongly recommend a new finanacial advisor.

BTW & Spartan....I agree...I recovered, stuck with it got it all back and much more since...!

Rob

The Americans that are feeling better about the economy are: South Americans not North Americans.

Somehow, not surprised to see you're from AZ, with it's sterling reputation....of Bigotry. I thought your brand of crazy was limited to violating the rights of Mexican-Americans.

Bush was losing hundred of thousand of jobs a month, what were you saying or doing when all this was going on? Blind, forgetful bastard that you are.

You aren't just blinded by the bullsh!t you hear from your you golden idols Limbaugh and Beck + all of Fox "news," you've got it stuffed in your ears, nose, throat, and saddest of all, smeared all over what I guess is your brain.

secondbrother: I'm a resident of AZ...and I'm also an American citizen. You claim that those of us that reside here in AZ are limiting and violating the rights of Mexican-Americans and that we're bigoted...you sir, have no idea what you are talking about. President Obama has sued our state for our SB1070 law...which if you took the time to read it, you would come to the conclusion that there is nothing discriminatory about it at all...it's only 2 pages long...read it and get informed and quit defaming the good people of our state. I suggest that you even become more informed and come to our border with Mexico...you might learn a thing or 2.

What are these loser REPUKES trying to pull! LETS go on MSN and try to spin our BULLSHYT, it may change some minds. But most DEMOCRATS are way more informed than there simple minded kind!

But most DEMOCRATS are way more informed than there simple minded kind!

Could have fooled me. That will make my day LOL.

Agree Auto 101. What are these people learning in elementary school? "There" is the wrong use in that sentence -- should be "their". My command of the English language is far from perfect, but I'm seeing a whole lot of grammatical errors in these comments -- mostly from Dems.

Ahh juanita, blind as a bat, are you? Well, congratulations on supporting the eroding of the rights of minorities. Way to go!

And I do know about the border, and I personally know people that have been stopped for being a bit too brown in Arizona, I guess. In fact, Arizona is where I saw the MOST anti-Mexican racism, and it was quite blatant.

So, you can give away more of your rights, and support scum like Brewer and Arpaio, just don't ask for help when you finally do open your eyes and realize it's too late.

Have fun!

You are aware that Gallup and Rasmussen are practically the only two polling firms that have Romney winning the election, right?

....It MUST mean that they're obviously lying, and so Obama is a sure thing! Thanks eyetoeye!

Isn't Rasmussen the Fox "news" pollster?

Hey Bro and fartan,it would not take a lot of thought to see Rom is kicking your Obama's ass. As for Starsailing,did anyone ever tell you that you look like Moe at first glance. Loose the hat dork.

Yes, because as one person, you represent everybody.

If I were you, @Lars, I'd be looking for a new employer. They're BS'ing you big time. If you don't see that your, probably top heavy, company executive types are screwing you, then you need to start looking into the numbers. THEY never take a cut/loss/forgo a bonus. Meanwhile, they cut staff, cut overtime, cut, eliminate and decrease their share of employee benefits. It doesn't affect the top guns, Lars, they just want their numbers to look right.

The company I work for has laid off 50% of employees, my salary has remained stagnant for 3 years, price of gas, food, etc. has sky rocketed, and we were just told our health insurance is increasing 17% in 2013 because of Obama Care. Nice try, but I'm not fooled.

That is nice ours has gone up 20K and our taxes have gone down 1% instead of paying 7% on 91K were paying 6% When we made 70K we were paying 3%. Sorry but we refused to participate in the recession.

, company executive types are screwing you, then you need to start looking into the numbers.

Unless you look at car dealers they have a 2% profit margin. Most of the time in the last 4 years they would have one car dealer float two other car dealers to prevent closing down the other dealers.

Romney WAS gaining in the polls. That trend started to reverse about a week ago. They're moving to flat, or, worse for you, back towards Obama.

The amount of student debt has increased to record levels during President Obama’s administration despite longstanding promises to tackle the problem, according to a report by the College Board Advocacy and Policy Center.

According to the report, “borrowing grew more rapidly from 2005-06 to 2010-11 than it had during the preceding five years.” Both borrowers and graduates picked up debt beyond the rate of inflation.

The report found that “debt per borrower grew at an average annual rate of 2.1 percent beyond inflation and average debt per graduate grew at an average annual rate of 2.7 percent.” Compare those numbers to 1.4 percent and 2.5 percent, in the time between 2000-01 and 2005-06.

Tuition costs for all types of higher education have hit record highs. The average tuition for a 4-year public university has risen from $6,865 when Obama took office to $8,655 for the 2012-13 school year.

Senator John Thune (R., S.D.), chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, blamed President Obama’s policies for the “bleak economic outlook” that young Americans face.

“President Obama’s failed economic policies resulted in 43 straight months of unemployment above eight percent since the start of his administration,” Thune told the Free Beacon.

“Twenty-three million Americans are unemployed or underemployed and nearly five million Americans have been out of work for over a year,” he said.

“The fact that 50 percent of recent college graduates remain unemployed or underemployed is unacceptable.”

Thune outlined an economic plan to help recent graduates. “By providing tax certainty for our job creators and eliminating excessive government red tape and regulations on our employers, we can get Americans back to work,” he said.

Generation Opportunity, a non-partisan, non-profit youth polling organization, found that young people care more about jobs than college debt.

In a July 27 to July 31 poll of 1,003 young adults, the organization discovered that 64 percent of those surveyed “believe the availability of more quality, full-time jobs upon graduation is more important than lower student loan interest rates.”

Twenty-six percent of those surveyed said that they delayed “pay[ing] off student loans or other debt” due to the bad state of the economy.

Haha not so Spartan,the landslide cometh.

Your right Obama is going to win by a LANDSLIDE MACFOOLISH! The polls have left out 70% of latinos, once they vote it's over for that lying sack of shyt! Telling people in Ohio that Jeep was Moving all production to China, Jeep said there was nothing further from the truth, infact they are adding 1100 jobs! Lying Bytch! Not to mention all the flip-flap's on abortion, taxes, imagration ect ect HE IS A PHUCKING JOKE

Americans are feeling better BECAUSE Romney is gaining in the polls.

Americans are feeling better BECAUSE Romney is gaining in the polls.

Only the Americans who don't know any better. If you knew Romney, you'd know better.

Dream on... I know and feel how angry you are!! Why don't you just go and watch, listen and read what dump fox is feeding you. Next time we knew you are having a heart attack and you are blaming the NBCnews or worst the PRESIDENT!!!

Go take your medicine and lighten up... or go start looking for another country to migrate.. as Obama will still be your President for the next 4 years!!!

Americans are feelin better about the economy: South Americans not North Americans.

The spin machine is set on high.

Well said Joe, and don't forget, he also just recently made that supposed buyout from the cattle farmers, after we were exposed to an article about how the price of beef has tripled in the past year or so. That supposed buyout insured the price of beef would not lower anytime soon. And just the other day there was an article pushing peanut butter. Is Michelle now going to control what we eat because of her obsession with obesity?

If they went bankrupt, they were gone as no longer in business ever. No one wants college graduate working low wage jobs. Do you ever think about what you write? And Proud, Michelle Obama has no had and never will have any say over what you eat. If you can't come up with any legitimate argument against the President and so resort to lies, what kind of a person does that make you?

If they went bankrupt, they were gone as no longer in business ever.

So just so you know they did go bankrupt. they are still in business. Did you think about that? Looks like Obama did what Romney said should be done they should go bankrupt.

Only with the government bailout did they survive, the private sector had no one to step up to carry them.

And Romney did say they should receive money or are you just remembering what you want to?

Us in the private sector was NEVER givin a chance. That BOZO OBUMMER THE CLOWN. Jumped in to give them government support and to give part of it to the UNIONS. that would of lost there CONTRACTS if they would of filed and went through a NORMAL bankruptcy protection plan. That and those that had invested in GM would of gotten part of there investment back instead of losing everything.

NOBAMA 2012

I look around and see high unemployment,inflation, empty commercial buildings.

Knothing good is happening from what i see.What anyone see's in Obama i dont know.

You Republicans make me laugh...Mitt Romney's big idea is to cut taxes for the rich and deregulate industry like George W. Bush did...that worked swell, didn't it? Romney's idea on healthcare is to SLIGHTLY lower the premiums for those with health insurance while those who don't have it will die. Wallstreet will have even fewer rules than in 2007-08, the rich will pay less in taxes (because equal rate cuts ALWAYS favor the rich) and if Romney-Ryan have their way your social security will be invested by the same people who crashed the economy the last time. Not to mention your parents will be at the oh-so tender mercy of the insurance industry who will think up creative ways to keep them from getting policies. In short everything that Bush wanted to do will be done...Romney is Bush's third term. Oh and by the way...being a private equity guy does not translate to knowing how to create jobs...look at how Mass. did with Romney as governor if you don't believe me. Republicans have a single playbook: tax cuts and deregulations. The offest thing is a joke...they won't even announce WHAT loopholes they'll close so you can bet if you're not rich you'll be getting screwed. But hey, Bush had a great economy so obviously those policies work...if you're in China whom Romney wants us to emulate.

repubs in denial...so they lie as if it changes the facts that the economy is getting better, home construction, jobs....everything.....despite record attempts to stop the economy from recovery...rt wingers come on to blogs and lie over and over again...just like their leader.....Liar in chief changing who he is several times a day.

Romney became president Obama during the last debate..changing his position on everything once more......rt wingers who support Romney now have to support President Obama...!

...so they lie as if it changes the facts that the economy is getting better, home construction, jobs

So they are finally learning from the democrats?

If ROBME did so good as Governor in Massachuetts then why is he down by 20% in the polls there, I would say they know his policies after being there 4 years! So any one who votes or talks about ROBME being good for American is either in the top 5%, just a RACIST or STUPID!

Governor campaigns and presidential campaigns are different many so called red states have been Democratic controlled for over 100 years.

Governor campaigns and presidential campaigns are different many so called red states have been Democratic controlled for over 100 years.

Not sure where you're going with this, but most of the governors of Massachusetts for the past thirty years or so have been Republicans. Romney claims to have balanced the budget without raising taxes and worked with the legislature, which is indeed mostly Democrat.

But the fact is that instead of raising taxes, he increased fees by $750 million - which does not require legislative approval. And, he vetoed over 800 bills - which is more than one a day for each day he held office.

We in Massachusetts know Mitt well - he was a highly-partisan, non-cooperative, absentee governor who clearly only ran as a steppingstone to the Presidency, and didn't run for re-election because he knew he didn't have a chance of winning. He's a duplicitous phony who will say and do anything to get elected, with no interest in actual public service whatsoever.

And he won't have a chance of winning Massachusetts in the Presidential election either. For good reason.

If you think Romney is the best choice for president, you don't know Mitt.

Not sure where you're going with this, but most of the governors of Massachusetts for the past thirty years or so have been Republicans.

And since in the last 40 years they have only voted for a republican president in 1980 and 1984. that is my point.

If I am a millionaire - THEN I WORKED AND EARNED IT!!! I guess you would rather socialism and redistribution of wealth to the LAZY and THUGS that Obama and Democrats KEEP on entitlements!!! Obama DID not attack the Muslim Terrorist for Libya because he IS MUSLIM!!!

The last time I looked, rich people (however you define it) are the ones that provide jobs. Jobs are created by the businessperson not by people on receiving end of money from the government. Government can create interim jobs by increasing infrastructure funding however, sustainable jobs come from entrepeneurs. Yes changing to the tax strucutre and closing loopholes will force paying more taxes. People are supporting Republicans because Obama did not keep his promise and did not create jobs; he used the TARP money to help the auto and wall street which were in the plans already when he took office. Can't sit back and wait for the government to solve our problems, it is the go-getter that wants to improve thier life are the ones going to make our lives better by creating companies and jobs.

HoosYerDaddy...the thing that gets me when you libs say that the GOP is all about favoring the rich, the GOP has ALWAYS been about the rich since they became a party in the 1800's. Why are you guys soooo surprised at this? I agree 100% that the rich should pay more in taxes, but this is not the reason why the USA is in trouble. Obama just likes to spend money we don't have and give freebies to losers.

TM....president Obama has the least amount of spending for decades....you need to brush up on fact checking yourself before you post......

No one begrudges people for being rich....but it is wrong to steal it from Americans by sending their jobs overseas. Romney's whole life is taking everyone elses money...never creating a product...just buying companies, taking out all the money in them and getting rid of them or taking them overseas where he can hide profits in offshore accounts.....Romney is scum.

One thing I can assure you is that Romney wouldn't go to sleep and allow our heroes to be killed in Benghazi (and even order those who would help them to "stand down"), then try to cover it up later... all for political reasons.

Obama is worse than scum.

Obama is worse than scum.

Yes I would say your right sadly.

REALBULL-AUTO 0.1 What thePhuck was BUSHWRECK doing, he was told of al-quida talk of attacks on the wire, Gee he didn't do anything knowing something was going to happen- why? to get support to invade another country and not go after OSAMA!THAT"S real good right REPUKE

NANI&BIRDBRAIN SINCE the millionares are doing great, have been for the past twenty years, where are all the jobs they are seating on trillions of dollors ,where are the jobs? "TRICK"le down is a TRICK for the rich to get richer only! BIRDBRAIN I worked for 40 years and payed payroll taxes every paycheck and social security so they're not ENTITLEMENTS, it was an investment and I'm cashing a little out every month! So Phuck off with your statements.

he was told of al-quida talk of attacks on the wire,

That was looking back when your in the now world it is more difficult looking at what will be coming. the president receives thousands of death threats if he was assassinated who would be to blame if you of them looked like a very low treat was wrong? Their is a lot of talk that is why parents of children never think they child would have ever shot up a school. I have even received death threats. If I was to be killed by one could my wife sue the police for failing to act on talk?

THAT"S real good right REPUKE

Democraps get really old.

to get support to invade another country and not go after OSAMA!

Yes we Invaded Afghanistan and that put us right next to Osoma. Iraq we used 7 year old Intel that was based on false stuff. people gave in to pressures much like Al Gore did with Ethanol. No one can argue that it is not a bad thing That Iraq is not freed. I wanted them to do it differently but I was not the president And I am not congress.

worked for 40 years and payed payroll taxes every paycheck and social security so they're not ENTITLEMENTS,

You will get back what you paid into it after about 11 years. That is why it needs reform they need to raise the age of when you will get it. when It first started it was right next to the life expectancy.

SINCE the millionares are doing great, have been for the past twenty years, where are all the jobs they are seating on trillions of dollors ,where are the jobs?

you wouldn't recognise the average millionaire if he was standing next to you. You do know most are in their 50's? they own their own business and they have an income of 100-250K on average? Did you know most never paid more than 30K for a car? Did you know most are living in the same house for 20-30 years and it is in the middle of a middle class neighbor hood? Did you know most never inherited more than 10K? did you know Most will be a 1 generation millionaire household? Did you know most are married to the same woman for 30 or more years?

By the way does any one know when were leaving Bosnia? You might remember the little place Clinton invaded that were still their.

One thing I can assure you is that Romney wouldn't go to sleep and allow our heroes to be killed in Benghazi (and even order those who would help them to "stand down"), then try to cover it up later... all for political reasons.

Well, then, you don't know Mitt. He has far less interest in actually doing the job of President than getting elected to do it.

And as for anyone being ordered to stand down in Benghazi, that simply didn't happen. Turn off the Right Wing propaganda and pay attention to the real world. With so many sources of information available to us, there's no excuse for believing something so obviously stupid.

Were still in Germany, France,Japan,ect. whats your point?

Auto 101 -- I agree with you. Most of us would not know a millionaire if he was standing next to us. My first job was as an executive secretary. There was a girl in one of the offices that drove a beat-up car, all her clothes were tacky, and she lived in an apartment over a garage. She was married, and her husband lived the same way. One day she quit her job, moved into the very elegant large home in front of the garage and they bought new cars. They adopted two children (had no luck having kids) and I found out later they only worked because they wanted to -- already owned the elegant house and drove old cars because they wanted to. They were millionaires.

Also, go to any auction up in the mountains and watch what type usually buys large plots of land. It will invariably be the guy standing around in bib overalls with a straw hat on -- and he'll pay cash -- while the guys in three-piece suits that look so rich just stand there.

Gerri,

Agreed. I used to work in a hotel in South Florida. The owner was an old guy who lived with his wife in the hotel, and would do business from a small table in the cafe. He wore old, shabby clothes, drove a seven year old Cadillac, and was incredibly cheap about maintaining the place. There was even a story that a bellman had once been fired when he mistook the old man for a homeless person wandering the grounds.

The owner and his wife were John D. and Cather T. MacArthur.