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For the 5 million long-term unemployed, defined as those out of work for 27 weeks or more, it doesn't look pretty.
Call it "pink slip stigma." When you don't have a job, it's harder to convince a new employer to give you one. And we all know the longer you're out of the game, the harder it gets. What we didn't know was exactly how hard. Now, thanks to some sneaky economists, using 12,000 fake resumes, there's some solid data.
A team of researchers sent out over 12,000 fake resumes to over 3,000 online job postings. They designed the resumes so that the candidates were all equally qualified. The only thing they changed was the length of time the fictional candidate was out of work.
For the 5 million long-term unemployed, defined as those out of work for 27 weeks or more, it doesn't look pretty.
"The labor market penalizes you for being out of work," Kory Kroft, co-author of the study "Duration Dependence and Labor Market Conditions: Theory and Evidence from a Field Experiment," published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, told NBC News.
From 0-6 months, the percentage of callbacks gradually declines from about 7 percent. But once it hits 6-8 months there's a steep drop-off. After 6 months of being jobless, there's only a 4 percent chance you'll get called in for an interview, a 45 percent plummet.
What gives? Well, "There's two kinds of employees, productive and unproductive," said Kroft. "Firms will use the number of months you've been out of work as a "proxy" or "signal" of how productive you are."
The idea is that when you're out of work, your job is getting a job. If you're not great at that job, you might not be great at the one the employer is hiring for. And the effect is greater the longer you've been out of work.
One bright spot, if you can call it that, is that after 8 months the "pink slip stigma" levels off. So if you're sitting on a chair in a lobby waiting for a job interview next to a guy out of work for 14 months and you've been without a job for 34, he doesn't have any better shot than you just based on that fact alone.
So what advice is there for job-seekers? For one, check out the odds of getting a callback in response to an online job posting. You have a 93 percent chance of your resume getting deleted. That's a pretty strong testament to how you don't want to just blast out resume after resume in response to Monster.com posts. Chat up friends and colleagues, go to networking events, and look for ways to make human, in-person connections to get you your next gig.
And if you're going to wallow in self-pity, make it quick. "Hit the ground hard early on," after losing a job, says Kroft, an Assistant Professor of Economics at the University of Toronto.
Better yet, pay attention to common signals that you could be up for getting pushed out - like overall company layoffs, being left out of email chains and meetings, and people giving you pitying looks in the hallways - and start your job-search before you get called into HR.
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there but for the grace of God go I.
Beware of false Prophets....No BO in 13
Beware of BS trolls...no jmj today or ever.
Add to it that you are 60 and you are @!$%#-outta-luck!
I have friends that have worked harder trying to get a new job to replace the one they lost. Sad part is all are interviewing for jobs making half the salary. So hard for everyone.
Face It Brother and Sister American, America has been HiJacked by the Intentional and deliberate EVIL 1-10%er and corporate rich. I just looked at the gas prices here in califarcia, Whoopee!! Moving back to the East coast very soon now, and they didn't go down...As the evile vile evil oil oligarchs said, Instead they WENT UP to $4.20 gallon of regular; and with people struggling with half pay, lost incomes, $1100.00p/mo "healthCare" insurance policies. NO wonder that article showed the 10 happiest countries on Earth, they hit the happy point of injecting a bit of Socialism into their economies with Universal HealthCare.. Bye bye MittTaxPittance, Eddi Munster and the insurance VacuumBeasts as America is heading in that direction. WorkPlace?? the EVile Vile Rich have turned American Employment into a Worker's HELL For MORE PROFIT!!!!!!!; And The article found America to be One of the Most if not THE most miserable country in the World.
Vote Democrat AAAACCCCCRRRRROOOOSSSSS The Board so we can dump the corporation's politico pets on crapital hill. We can try to avoid another civil war, Which BTW was headed by the SAME Self Entitled idiot TYPES of the early 1800's and many of their descendents are Here NOW!! Google "Rep Zach Wamp" of Tenn in his healthcare interview. These MittTaxPittance Types Put their South into a war against the North for their own profit....Sound Familiar??Try This: What is Amazing is the select few number of Naive Americans who have beenConned/Fooled by the republicanCrimeCartelPropagandaMachine. Think about it... These Very Well monied, SnakeOilSalemenMittTaxPittanceRommel and his SideKick, Eddie Munster, are The Elitist Thug's economic Hitters Who Caused This Whole WORLD Disaster Starting with President Reagan and Most Assuredly Pronounced with
KingGeorge The VacuumBrained during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001- 2008. These Amoral Politaphiles are into Contolling and Manipulating America in their favor, at the pleasure of their 1-10%er and corporate Masters, ACTUALLY StealingAmerica's economic power. Research It: These Republican 1-10% wealthy and corporate Thieves have OVER $40 Trillion Dollars, OUR MONEY, Stolen From
US with Their Phony Bank Fees and out and out Acoount Looting, Stashed in
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Money needed for rebuilding America NOT Bloating their elitist "family
wealth" for the future of their "Little Darlings" SUCH AS Rommels $48,000,000
Malibu Mansion WITH an InHouse Car Elevator for his son's $180,000 Ferrari. Prez O is the ONLY Choice. These ARISTOCRAT ELITIST THUGS callingthemselves "republicans" BELONG IN PRISON NOT in Congress or The WhitHouse. Now Try this one on for size: President Harry Truman in 1948:"The Republicans … will try to make people
believe that everything the Government has done for the
country is socialism. They will go to the people and say: "Did you see
that social security check you received the other day—you thought that
was good for you, didn't you? That's just too bad! That's nothing in the
world but socialism.
Did you see that new flood control dam the
Government is building over there
for the protection of your property? Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new hospital that they are building is socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the farmers! Minimum wage laws? Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad for you, my
friend.
Everybody knows that. And here you are, with your
new
car, and your home, and better opportunities for the kids, and a
television set—you
are just surrounded by socialism! Now the Republicans
say, 'That's a
terrible thing, my
friend, and the only way out of this
sinkhole of
socialism is to vote for the
Republican ticket.'" And, AND!, AND!!! that
was 64 Years Ago!!!. The republicanCrimeCartel is still doing
the same exploitation of people THEY ARE NOTORIUS FOR. BUT, according
toKingGeorgeTheVacuumBrained, it is called "free
market" capitalism; with families in the streets and 25% Unemployment and worse
with
MittTaxPittanceRommel and his buddy EddiMunster. Fellow and Sister Americans: A vote for ANY republicanCrimeCartelSoldier, Rommel and EddiMunster And The Boner and the other politicos up on crapital hill where they are controlling The House Of Reptiles, is a vote
Against Yours and Your Family's Well Being. You Can Take That
Advice To The
Bank. What does Rommel Say??: "That 47% WHO depend on the government- I
DON'T CARE ABOUT THEM. I care about the 1-10%Evil Rich and EVIL EVIL
Corporate Rich B@$T@RD$ Like
ME*ME* ME*ME!!! Sister and Brother Americans
Rommel and EddiMunster ARE NOT "The Dynamic Duo" Without A Doubt THEY ARE
the DISGUSTING Duo. At Election time
Listen to that InnerVoice, You're
Guardian Angel; Let's KEEP Prez O Around the
WhiteHouse; otherwise "Those
Two" and their Pals will "CLEAN HOUSE" With US
Payin' The
Freight.
I've been unemployed two times for over a year, but living in a poor state with a unique skill set doesn't help! I have also worked for about 44 years so if you are prepared, you can do a lot of things in a year!
The main thing is to be doing something while you are unemployed. Just sitting around mailing out resumes and waiting for a call does not cut it. You need to approach getting a new job like a job itself. You also need to do something with all of the free time you will have. You can even volunteer time with charity groups, your local schools, or somewhere just to show a prospective employer that you are a go-getter. For example, if you are in the IT field you can volunteer your time to help out organizations that could use your expertise but can not afford to pay for it. If you are a carpenter you can volunteer some of your time with Habitat for Humanity or some other local charitable organization. That way you are at least keeping your hand in things professionally and showing your willingness to work. Volunteering can also give you the opportunity to pick up new skills that might make you more attractive to a potential employer. If you can afford it, you can also take a few classes at your local college to enhance your skills. The worst thing you can do is just sit around on your arse doing nothing.
It's almost as if all of these human resources types of people go to the same school for their bias training. What makes sense to the common person doesn't seem to make sense to them. And the crazy thing is, they all almost think that way.
To JMJ- "J"!!!, You Say "Beware of FALSE PROPHETS" as you SuckUp and Buy MittTaxPittanceRommel's and EddiMunster's LIES While they look down their noses at you!! Those two and their Confederates on Crapital Hill are Playing with what's left of Your Brain J!!!! They are Laughing AT YOU and Your Gullibility; As Samuel L. Jackson is saying on You Tube "Wake The F**UP!!!. MittTaxPittance, EddieMunster are giggling Behind Your Back at YOU and Your Family J!!! " Ha! Another @$$H0LE" to vote for Us..And J!! Y'know what their Thanks is for you, Because YOU Think if you kiss their TailBones and vote for them "They won't forget Me!" Right?!?.Please??!!??...Wrong J. These guys are CriminalSociopathic Thugs they'll Flush You and Your Family Down the Toilet Faster then you can say Jack$HIT.
J, Please go to You Tube for Samuel L. Jackson's "Wake The F#**# UP!!!! And Pulleeezzzee Wake The F#*K UP JMJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I'm glad I will never be in this boat. It is easy to get a job only takes a few hours for me no mater where I live. Have fun with the recession I refuse to participate in it.
Most people can't live on dishwashing for $4.00/hour
Auto 101 you sound like the guy whos chair im sitting in. He told me the same thing repeatedly during the month he was still here. I moved to this state to take this job. I make less than he did and I have an Engineering degree which he did not. With high unemployment people will lline up to take your job and do it for less than youre making.
I know and I make about 50K a year (it is a variable income)and most cant live on that. But you get to be a dish washer when you have no value. I have value and that is why I can get hired in hours any where in the country. My career has always had value you just have to keep pace with technology (and that is easy).
They are welcome to try. Most quit in the first 5 years. And most technicians refuse to work on Volkswagen's and Audi's
wouldn't brag about 50K. That doesn't buy you much these days.
I have both worked on and drive VW's and old 912's for many years! Slam them all you want, but most cars won't last 26 years, 36 years and 45 years respectively! True some newer years and models have innane issues, but no worse than many other makes and models! All vehicles have issues, but VW had double-cab trucks, fold-down side gates and IRS rear suspensions in the 50's and 60's, and how many US trucks can say the same even today? It took US trucks until the late 80's early 90's to start making good crew and double cabs in any meaningful way! Still can't get IRS or better truck beds with locking smuggler's boxes and fold-down side gates! Still can't take off the front bumper and grille and take out the entire drive train in under 2 hours with just a floor jack! I now look forward to diesel-hybrids, and they probably won't be coming from Detroit!
People can live comfortably on that if they know how to budget and save. Not to mention that it's above the median family wage in this country, and Auto 101 claims that his individual wage. Any spousal wage is just icing on the cake at that point.
This is why it is important to find another job - ANY job. The problem with unemployment insurance is it gives people a "safety net" and they say "if I don't find the perfect job then no worries - I'll get unemployment for _____— (fill in the blank with 6 months, 12 month, 18 months, etc)". But they don't realize the damage it does to their skills being out of work that long AND what the above article summarizes.
I have hired a number of people over the years and getting laid off is certainly stressful. But if I see someone that took a part-time job stocking shelves or is working with a landscape company on the weekends while looking for a replacement job THAT is the person I want. Someone motivated. Someone willing to work hard, and sometimes for low pay, to be self-sufficient. THAT is the person I will hire.
Now take the opposite. I call in somebody for an interview that has been out of work for 6 months (or 8 months or 12 months) and ask what they have been doing for the last 6 months. I hear a lot of "nobody is hiring" or "there are not any jobs out there" so I ask if they took any part-time jobs or have picked up any hobbies over the last XX months and they tell me they have been sending applications and nobody is calling. THAT is the person I DON'T want!!
You are going to tell me for the last 6 months you didn't personally enter at least 10 businesses a week to personally give a resume or ask to speak to the manager? You were not skilled enough to even find a PART-TIME job? You see unemployment insurance can create a laziness and take away to urgency of finding another job. So if you cannot find a job in 6, 8, or 12 months you are either lazy OR do not have the skills needed for the workforce.
So now that people hate my reply and will no doubt criticize and yell at me, even though I am doing nothing more than telling you the truth, now I will tell you what to do when getting laid off.
First thing you do is find at least a part-time job. This could be working for your brother-in-law as a landscaper, fence installer, etc. Or even work for a placement service in "contract" positions (which many times can lead to a job offer too after they see how good a job you do). Something to show a potential employer you are motivated and "itchy" to work. Second, if you feel your skills are limited take a few college or adult courses. For example, take an Excel course to become more familiar with the software. Or Microsoft Word. This does two things: First, keep your mind active and motivated and, second, shows a potential employer that even in times of hardship you have one thing on your mind - to make yourself more productive. To make yourself more valuable. Put both of those on your resume and speak of those in the interview in a positive note and how it helped you improve your skills.
Then you will get a job in no time. THOSE are the people employers are looking for!!
ProBusiness -- as usual you are spot on! I really appreciate your posts and insights. Those that attack just don't like the truth and facts. I was a registered financial sales assistant and left a lucrative position in Dallas as an admin assist to the President & VP of a small firm as my husband was transferred to OR. I didn't apply for unemployment for 2 months thinking I was sure to get hired. The problem is we moved here a yr after 9/11 and a lot of firms laid off workers (my husband was one of them, hence the move) and ones that were hiring thought I had too much experience and because they couldn't afford my licenses (Series 6,7, and 63).
After 2 months I signed up for unemployment while applying for jobs within my field of expertise. After 2 months of looking I went "outside" the box and applied for a job for a global insurance company as a Customer Service Rep. I had ZERO insurance experience, nor was I licensed. The manager of the local office almost threw out my resume but noticed my licenses (hence he figured if I could pass the rigors of a Series 7 I shouldn't have a problem getting my P & C license), I had a ton of customer service awards and experience, and I put together some successful marketing programs as well as events. I got the job, earned awards, and was made the lead Customer service rep for the office within 4 yrs. It took me a month of going through 3 interviews for this job, getting approved via credit and background checks (while waiting I applied and interviewed for 2 other jobs) but this came through as I was considering another offer (don't close any doors until you get the actual job).
Way to go Dotties!!
I too was briefly unemployed when a new business venture started in 2007 collapsed the beginning of 2008. That's right, I started a business just months before the downward spiral of our economy. With new debt from a failed business and no job I applied for unemployment insurance but also sent out a ton of resumes. In addition I personally stopped into a couple of placement agencies (like Robert Half, Adecco, etc.) and introduced myself as well as told them my strengths and dropped of a resume.
Several weeks went by as I personally stopped by a number of companies but that just kept me more motivated and then one of the placement agencies called me and told me they had a "contract" position as a Sr. Financial Analyst that would last about 3 months. I said I was interested and ultimately got the 3 month contract. That was the middle of 2008 and that company offered me a full-time job towards the end of the contract and I am still there.
But learned not to put all my "eggs" in one basket so also took an adjunct teaching position as a college Economics professor and teach two or three evenings a week. Add to that I started a side business doing business consultation and college subject tutoring (Algebra, Statistics, Economics, etc.). Add to that I started an internet store. In other words I don't think I have had any "free" time since about 2009:)!!
But I will never let the "labor market" dictate to me again what I have to do. I currently have, basically, 4 jobs and if any one of them told me they didn't need me anymore then "oh well" because I can do fine without them.
Dottie and ProBusiness - those are all excellent stories/plans. More power to you. However, some employers who want to hire professionals look down upon people who took a job at McDonald's while looking for work. They don't want to think they hired the McDonald's fry cook as their senior office manager or accountant. They look at your last job as if that's who you are, not as what you're doing to survive. It's stupid, but that's how a lot of employers think.
Also, the lower paying the job you lost, the harder it is to set money aside in case you lose your job. Unemployment is no picnic. It's far less than your salary. I'm sure some people do get complacent - but most find their standard of living is so much lower that they are motivated to get real work.
In normal times, when unemployment is low, I can see employers judging candidates somewhat based on how long they've been out of work. If there are plenty of jobs in their field and no one is hiring this person, that's a legitimate red flag. But when unemployment is high, and has been high for a long time, and there are far more applicants than jobs available, it's completely wrong to assume the candidate is not productive just because they've been out of work for six months or more.
You better be able to live very well on 50k or your a moroon!
Nice. /sarc
If you can't find a job then VOLUNTEER!! You can go to any company or government agency that interests you. Offer to volunteer a couple days a week and you put yourself front and center when a job opening happens. That's what my son did and he got hired within six months. I have another friend who was laid off after 20 plus years and she did the same thing, she is now employed at a job she loves. Not only does the company get to see your work ethics, you get to see if this is a company that you would really want to work for. Plus, you get to keep your resume and references up-to-date. Yes, you will be working for "free" but the benefits far out-weigh sitting at home watching reality shows.
Pro business & Dottie, I think your stories of success are great under normal job market conditions. This is anything but a normal job market. I've been out of work for 3 months, pounding the pavement, networking, getting referrals at multiple companies and I am having the hardest time getting a bite. Wanna know what's holding me back. I am "overqualified". I can't count how many times I've been told that.
Here's the dirty little secret............... all those years the so called "experts" told us "broaden your skill-set", "get an MBA", "get certifications", it will make you so valuable. Problem is that companies say they want upwardly mobile people but they really don't. I've been turned down for jobs because the hiring manager wants someone who will stay in the position for 10 years, not move up in the company after 1 or 2 years. Since 100% of the leverage is in the employer's court in today's market, they can hold out for more desperate candidates who need the paycheck and will take less money.
I guess you can say I am fortunate because I've made a good living and have a solid rainy day fund so I can be more selective...................... for now. But I truly believe my credentials are holding me back. One hiring manager really wanted to hire me but I wouldn't take a 30% pay cut and they wouldn't budge at all, regardless of my background and experience. His comment was "there are 20 people (less qualified than me) who will do an adequate job and take the salary offer." Right now, it pays to be under-qualified and less experienced. Sad but true.
Miss Copper,
Volunteering is a great idea............... but I can't miss the Bigfoot and UFO shows that are on during the daytime! :o)
Probusiness,
I've done all that you listed. I'm over 55, and it looks like the rest of my life will be temp work and seasonal and gaps in between where I'm collecting unemployment and doing my volunteer work while I send out resumes and fill out applications. Job seekers to job is still 10 to one in my town. Fortunately, the library has computers I can use. So glad your programs work for you. My timer shows that I have 10 minutes left.
Know what's really fun? Watching the interviewer roundfile your application before you're done with the interview, and dropping by to check back again to see the kid they hired.
Your right is doesn't buy much but you can still make a living on it with a family of 4.
That is correct were on track to make this year 105K I'm an Auto technician and my wife is an E-7 in the army. That is why I have to look for work every 2-3 years. It will be nice when she retires because in the privet sector they are making 50-60 more than what she is right now.
Can do however NBC just did a sorry that in California you will be homeless if you make 50K.
To many don't do this
Several here have mentioned (Ice and Babs) that this is not normal times and I understand that. Babs, so you know I am 50 years old so I understand the age discrimination issues too. All the companies can deny it but there IS age discrimination.
Please don't take my comments to mean ALL people. Sounds like you two are hard working and I certainly respect that.
What I am trying to say is there is work out there. It may not be the "office" job someone is used to. But I know if I need to make $100 I can go out tomorrow and make $100. My full-time job I make a little over $1200 a week but all my other PART-TIME and "self-employed" work I make about an extra $600 a week. In other words it may not be "fun", and the wife complains constantly I work too much, but I can make $100 tomorrow without blinking.
And that can be ANYTHING you know how to do. Maybe you offer sprinkler repair in the neighborhood. Maybe you teach piano lessons in the afternoon. Maybe you tutor in a subject matter you feel comfortable in. Maybe you make Adirondack chairs on the weekend and offer for sale at the flea market, garage sale, or on Craigslist. Maybe you offer mobil oil changes or mobile car wash services. In other words I am a strong believer that EVERYBODY has a skill or talent that others would pay for.
Find something you like to do and make some very inexpensive flyers and advertise on Craigslist. It might start out slow (1 or 2 sales every week or two) but by staying aggressive you just might find that within 4 to 6 weeks you actually start to build some decent part-time income.
How many of the resumes had Kumar Manurswhn H1b on them and how many call backs did they get on those?
Try "Garcia" as a last name - not much better! Even with an impressive resume you won't hear much from large corporations and "some" people who want to check, re-check and verify long-form birth certificates!
....this explains the "Occupy" movement.......
Folks need to learn how to grind. Jobs won't come to you. You have to go out there and get it. Volunteer while your unemployed. It shows you don't just sit around idlely and it provides you a chance to network.
It also helps to take college courses, especially if you're over 50. It never hurts to learn new things and it can show a prospective employer that you're not just sitting at home languishing in unemployment-land. Plus, a college campus can be a great place to network.
I had two opportunities while unemployed - to teach at the University or to run commercial raft trips on the Rio Chama, instead I spent 21 days rafting in the Grand Canyon, a week on Lake Powell, ran the Snake and Selway rivers, Deschutes River, Fraiser River in BC, Biked 90 miles in Denali, ran the Nennana and Rogue Rivers and then biked the White Rim. Sometimes necessary to re-charge the batteries before looking for work if you can! There is always work to be done, but not always enough time for everything else in life!
Most people don't have the luxury to be able to afford that kind of "re-charging" (kids to feed, rent or mortgage to pay, etc). Please tell me you weren't collecting unemployment while "re-charging" in these places? Collecting unemployment is suppose to come with the requirement that you are actually and actively looking for work. I was on unemployment for 3 months when we moved to the NW (my husband was transferred) -- a couple of the standard questions was "have you been actively seeking employment" and " were you sick, disabled, or out of town during any days of these current two weeks for which you are seeking unemployment benefits?"
Could not agree more, KJNG. And as for you Dottie, not everyone who is unemployed suckles at the teat of unemployment. Life is too short to live a life of indentured servitude to some nameless, faceless, soulless corporation.
Dottie, no, I did not try and collect unemployment during this period, I did however apply after I returned and started actively looking for work - but only after being interviewed at my old company, being told they would love to have me back but... I would have to "pay back" severance pay and I was also "told" that everyone who left was ineligible for unemployment! The state didn't see it that way!
Ray Butt -- I did not imply ANYONE was suckling at anything you ASSUMED that was what I said. In reality I was saying not everyone has the where withall to take time off and it wouldn't be right to collect uninsurance IF that is kjng did, which by his remark he did not. I was actively looking for employment 1 yr AFTER 9/11 and actually took a job that was not in my wheelhouse and paying far less than what I was making in Dallas (due to my husband getting a job in OR after he got laid off (he couldn't find a job in the financial industry at the time as no one was hiring). I did not apply for unemployment for 2 months when we moved here thinking I could get a job with my skills and financial licenses (I was a registered admin assist). I was entitled to unemployment as my husband moved for work (my employer was the one that told me before I left and encouraged me to take it, which I didn't know I was as I resigned to move with my husband). I still waited even though he called me twice after I moved to find out why I hadn't applied. KJNG glad you were able to recharge yourself and got the unemployment that you are obviously entitled to. Sorry for the long msg, just wanted to clear up any misconceptions I may have created.
So, when do you check into jail for your flagrant egregious criminal unemployment fraud??? You think your unemployment check is your free vacation windfall???
I beg to differ
The obvious implication is that you think KJNG was 'suckling.'
Dotties girl,
Wait, what? Your husband got a job? in OREGON?
LUCKY!!!!
Obviously, some here have a problem with their "work ethic" causing their judgement to become cloudy.
The FIRST thing you ALWAYS do after losing a job is to file for unemployment benefits. Anyone who feels guilty about accepting it or boasts about taking a low paying job instead of collecting it has serious issues.
Sometimes, thing are simple. Take the benefits and look for work. Employers have a million different reasons to choose from to justify their decision not to hire you. Nevertheless, you only need one hiring manager to say "yes".
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I, for one, am glad to see the justice department encourage companies who are planning to layoff workers not to follow the law that requires such companies to give 60 days' notice to employees - at least not until after the election.
They are even willing to pay legal costs that these companies might encounter as they defend themselves against prosecution.
Employees just would not understand.
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Obama / Biden in 2012.
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Yeah, telling people the truth is so hard for this administration. Now we are gonna pay lawyers for the defense contrators. Another stupid move on Obummers watch.
Thats a union rule, not a federal one.....
It is all just part of conservative insistence on avoiding responsibility for their own actions by blaming their victims.
Victims of what? Nobody owes you anything. You owe yourself to take responsibility for your own well being.
Every time I hear someone talk as though unemployment is enough to live on, I want to scream! The MAX is $480 a week and that only goes to those whose wages are high enough to qualify as a max wage earner. Most people get around $300 per week. And that $300 is taxable. $300 a week won't pay for rent much less food, gas, insurance, utilities, etc. And $300 a week would equal a job paying below minimum wage. Now how is that better than working????
300 a week what planet are you on honey! Monthly benefits! My wife was a Government employee, yes the same ones who are sooooooo over paid, and no she was not exempt from paying into ANY benefit programs! 12 years on this job 40 years in the work force.
Employers want to hire someone who is already working and just steal help.
Because they are lazy. And, with this economy, they can get away with it.
All the ridiculous screening criteria, is cheap laziness. Getting hired it more about luck than anything including your network of contacts.
The current system sucks! We need a new world order!! But not that illuminati crap. I'm ready for the second coming...
If it's a job in the IT field, you must be Indian. Indians are perceived to be the greatest computer professionals on the face of the earth. Americans don't stand a chance against an Indian for getting hired.
It's not that Indians are paid less than Americans, in fact, they usually demand a premium over Americans. If you're an American and get hired, congratulations.
If you're an American out of work you had best look at changing your legal name to an Indian sounding name. You'll have so many job offers, you won't know which one to take.
Most companies will lay off Americans to hire Indians as replacements. And, they'll pay the Indians approximately 15% more than their American counterparts.
They also hire Indians from India because they can ship them back at a moments notice, and as they're not going to be staying here, the companies probably also don't have to pay taxes and benefits that a citizen would get. One of the largest companies in this state has sent out manufacturing to Asia, and brings in IT workers from India, complaining that there aren't any citizens in the area who can be trained (this where there are state universities and private colleges that the company donates to, but won't hire or train the local graduates).
We have people in this country who have been laid of off their job through no fault of their own, who want to work and are searching and struggling day after day to find a job.
And we have one political party in this country calling such people "lazy" and "irresponsible" and accusing them of "getting fat off the government" for it.
Mitt Romney has never had to fill out a job application, or type a resume, or sit in job interview after job interview hoping he's finally landed the right one.
He's never had to worry about his income or where his next check is going to come from, or whether to pay the water bill or the electricity bill this month because there's not enough money in his bank account for both.
He's had everything available to him and handed to him his entire life. He's never struggled for anything or had to work a real job a day in his life.
So how can we expect him to relate to the unemployed, the underemployed, the working poor, and the working middle class in this country? To understand their plight, let alone care about them?
Cameron Ford you are right. However, Romney's father did. He worked his fingers to the bone and made a successful company that he passed on to his heirs. Wouldn't you do the same thing if you could? Romney is not an aristocrat, he was lucky to have a father who was driven. When they are 21 Mormons have to go on missions to the poorest countries in the world, you think he doesn't know what poverty is? Doesn't know what hunger looks like? You are wrong about him, I believe he does understand. As far as Obama goes, he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but he was far from poor. He comes from a middle class family with a University educated mother who made sure he got everything he needed and more including a scholarship to Harvard. Obama may play like he is one of us, but he is not. Obama bailed out the financial industry with no strings attached, then they stabbed him in the back. Nobody takes him seriously because he doesn't know what he is doing. I think Americans are stuck between a rock and a hard place concerning these two, I do not think either will make good Presidents. It should make for a very interesting election.
We don't have to and it is 19 for men 21 for women and it is not just poor country's it is japan, England, France(which is where mitt went) Even the US. A Mission is not a cake walk it is working from 6:30am-10:00pm and you have a lot of rules people don't know about. It is a great time and very much worth it.
Did you know Miss Romney use to take the Bus to work? Did you know Mitt worked as a security guard at Chrysler and at the college he went to?
Their is no question Mitt and Obama both had great privileges that is what makes this country great you can make you own life. You can be handed to world but if you don't work it it wont grow. The Country is filled with former millionaires and broke kids of millionaires.
Julia-1073949........the bailout of the financial industry took place in the Fall of 2008. Obama became President in January of 2009. You have to stop drinking the Cool Ade.
You can't find a job after a certain amount of time,take some inventory of yourself,see what talents you have and open you're business,even if you do it from home
Six out of 9 people where I live lost jobs on my street,and opened up home businesses,and each different,some the same,they knew they had to, in order to survive and are pretty successful at it,doing well.
For example,two are landscapers.They're both competition,put their signs up out on the main thorough fare outside the street,and they're up side by side,they're considerate of one another, and still do well.
I typically don't get riled easily. But reading that a team of "researchers" sent out 12,000 FAKE resumes for job postings made me upset. That's fantastic. Make it even harder for real people who need to provide to get their resume in front of the right employer. And great job wasting the no doubt thousands of hours employers spent pouring over those 12,000 FAKE resumes. If I were funding the research, I would fire them all, take their salaries, and set up a resource center for hard working people trying to find a decent job.
I count myself extremely lucky to be working in my dream job for many years, but I've been on the other side and it's not fun. At all. We don't need more idiots like this making it even harder.
Soon Greece will look like a good place to move to.
Lets not forget all those people who WILL BE LAID OFF from the defense contractors that O'spend your tax dollar is willing to pay legal fees to not issue warnings of soon to be received pinkslips. If the the last administration did this they would be accused of uying votes!!! Thought this admin was the smart admin.....NOT!!!! Guess more prople will get to brush up on there interviewing skills!!!!
Obama will stop at nothing to buy votes! Lie, cheat and steal.....
It is true, the longer you are unemployed the more stale you appear to possible employers. There is always more to the story since age, specific work fields, last salary and the economic area a person lives in.
Most employers do not want to hire older people who have made good money since they like new employees to be young, trainable, and work long hours for nothing. Being well connected, with a good reputation in your field and in a field that needs people with your qualifications makes a job search easy.
Unfortunately, most people work, do a decent job and have skills but they have no connections. There is no Old Boys club like Romney belongs to that helps find jobs for their kind. As the old accountant said " The averaged worker is fungable goods, like a lump of coal, they all look alike and serve the same purpose." How can the average worker look any different than any other person out there seeking a job other than being younger and willing to work for less.
jr1965 - Your post is a biased and inaccurate misrepresentation by someone who obviously is not in the position to hire anyone.
can you spell... he does have a point. When it comes to restructuring, how much do you want a bet that the ones with the most time and highest incomes (at the top of their earning level) get axed? Yes, there are some skill sets that beg to be noticed, but the company is going to low ball them salary wise and they'll have to sell their home because they're getting half of what they used to. The CEOs don't have to worry because their stock benefits are like nuts to a squirrel, and the unskilled aren't worried about getting paid less than minimum anyway. It's the middle and upper middle class that suffer.
I was unemployed for two years. I sold most of my possessions online and did as much freelance as I could find. It was miserable. After all that I claimed, I only got about $250 weekly from unemployment.
I looked for every type of job not in my field. The thing is, people won't hire you at McDonalds if they know you are only there until something better comes along. Some here act as if that fast food job is just sitting there waiting for you. In a lot of places, its not.
Like with anything, it equates to how you spend your time/money. If getting more from unemployment means skipping that min wage job so I can LOOK for something better, then that is what Im going to do! I paid into unemployment. Its not like its free.
That is what paid off for me. Im at a job on salary for a year now.
This illustrates rather clearly how one becomes a 'double victim'- being laid off initially, then unable to find a job... because you've been unable to find a job!!! It's a circus for sure. And it's sad how much talent is going to waste out there because of some overpaid Human Resources @!$%#s who are the one's behind the victimizing!
Another victim of obamanomics.
if your field has not had any innovartion in the last five years how could an unemployed person for 2 years be obsolete so fast. Assuming that an unemployed person's productivity goes down is a fallacy, it depends on the field you are in and how you measure productivity in you area. If you are using a software that was developed 10 years ago, productivity does not go down if you stopped using it for 24 months as long as you know how to use it. So are you saying that people who stay home while others are working and make the household running are less productive ?
I was laid off and unemployed from January 2008 until February 2011. For the first 3 months recruiters called constantly, between 3 - 6 months the calls dropped off dramatically and then after 6 months there were no calls from recruiters at all. I landed a nice job in February 2011 all by myself with no help from anybody. I updated my profile out on Linkedin and the same recruiters that had ignored me for almost 3 years began to call me almost within the hour. I asked them why they were calling me now when they had ignored me for 3 years? Every single one of them told me that prospective employers instruct them not to refer anybody who has been unemployed for longer than 3 months because there is obviously something wrong with you if you cannot find another job within 3 months. Are you gnikcuf kidding me?????
Their is no excuse save for yourself to be unemployed for three years.
LOL you are not only an ssahole but you cannot spell worth a tihs you stupid gnikcuf rekcuskcoc. Your whole family should be dismembered while still alive.
There is no call for death threats here. You want to be mean that is fine call me names make fun of my spelling. it will just back fire on you.
I was diagnosed with Autism three times as a kid and undiagnosed three times. I was 4 years old when I started to talk. I was expelled in 4th grade and had to attend Anger management school. I graduated High School with a 3.5 GPA and had a third grade level in reading and spelling. Taught myself how to read (spelling and Grammar is much harder). Went through Automotive school with a 4.0 100% attendance. I can get a job any where in the country in hours with no difficulty what is your excuse for THREE YEARS NO JOB?
The typical HR department today screens applications with the primary goal of eliminating as many as possible. Been out of work, been fired, bad credit, typo, too old and countless other reasons and you are immediately eliminated from consideration. They don't want to know why they should hire you, they want to know why they shouldn't! Even if you get hired, good luck keeping the job any length of time. My suggestion - try self employment and start your own small business. Everyone has skills - use them to help yourself get ahead instead of someone else. And don't wait too long to start. The job you save may be your own.
Note to the long-term unemployed: Do NOT take this article to heart. All you need is ONE job. Do NOT focus on the unemployment stats. As best as you can, filter out the haters who think the last thing you want is a job. (You know who you are!) Just keep believing in yourself. Step up your networking game and keep applying!
Don't lose heart when 500 other people also apply for a job you've applied for. If you're fortunate enough to get called for an interview, don't think about the other applicants - just focus on being you and what YOU have to bring to the table.
Until I secured a position with a nearby school district last January, I had been out of work for 26 months. (And, I turned 60 years old two months after accepting the position). It was 26 months of literal hell. I don't know what's worse - having your applications go into a black hole, or having multiple interviews and coming this close to getting the position, only to have it go to the dreaded "internal candidate". But, you keep trying. You keep believing in yourself. You keep getting up every morning and you find SOMETHING to be thankful for. Just pick something, even if it's just being thankful that you haven't lost your mind yet. If you think you're coming close to going off the deep end mentally as you continue to look for work, go back to school. That's what I did. I took really difficult computer technology courses that literally kept my mind too occupied to worry. After spending 4-6 hours a day doing my job search, I spent another 2-4 doing my homework. By bedtime, my brain would be too fried to worry. Really.
Do NOT take these kinds of articles to heart, because they're the ones who make you want to drive to the nearest cliff and just keep driving. As my sweet grandmom used to say, it's a "sin and a shame" that someone who most likely earns a very sweet salary is earning that salary, in part, by writing articles about how poor the chances of OTHER people finding a job will be. I mean, what is WRONG with this picture???
Do not give up! All you need is one job.