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This ad has created an online uproar.
Dr Pepper marched directly into controversy a week ago when it launched its “March of Progress” ad campaign. And the uproar has not abated.
On Sept. 13, the soft drink maker posted to its Facebook wall an ad using the classic “March of Progress” image tweaked to promote the “evolution of flavor.” The whimsical ad showed a chimpanzee dragging his knuckles, followed by a semi-erect hominid reaching for a Dr Pepper, followed by a fully upright man walking and gulping a Dr Pepper. The images are captioned “Pre-Pepper,” “Pepper Discovery,” and “Post-Pepper” respectively.
Sounds harmless. Even banal. But about 7,000 comment and nearly 33,000 likes later, the ad is still provoking reaction by creationists who say it promotes the theory of evolution. Some are even threatening to boycott Dr Pepper. That in turn has stoked evolutionists to make counter comments. Then there's folks jumping on the pig pile just for laughs.
After all, we are talking about a soda pop ad, right?
At first, most of the comments on Facebook were lighthearted jokes about the image. A few comments from disappointed Christians began to crop up. Soon an evolution vs. creationism debate dominated the conversation, along with heaps of jeers at anyone taking the issue seriously.
“No we didn't come from apes,” wrote one user. “Lord Jesus pep can be blinded. If we came from apes why is there still apes [sic]”
“This is showing the theory of men evolving from apes I have lost all respect for Dr Pepper,” wrote another, who threatened to use his connections with various colleges to get them to pull Dr Pepper from their schools.
Comments like these prompted cries of “get over it!”, “really?” and, “The day your faith is shaken by a Dr Pepper ad is the day you should probably start reconsidering your faith.”
The debate also blew up on popular link-sharing site Reddit, whose users flooded the thread to mock the outrage and post parody comment, further inflaming the debate and spreading the conversation to their friend's Facebook newsfeeds.
“Frankly I'm surprised at how quickly it escalated and how big the thread became,” Reddit user undercoverrocker, who first posted the image to Reddit, told NBC News. The Redditer requested to remain anonymous to protect his privacy. Within a couple of hours any semblance of a real debate had evaporated, undercoverrocker said, becoming “trolls trolling trolls.” The term “trolls” and “trolling” refers to comments posted online where the person doesn't so much believe their substance as delight in the angry comments they provoke from others.
Adfreak nailed it, writing, "Once again, though, it goes to show how protests can spread like wildfire in social media, where outrage — and counteroutrage — are just a click away."
Dr Pepper has posted over 450 images to its Facebook wall since 2009. Previous images have asked for followers to identify their favorite Dr Pepper flavor, to identify which time of the day is best for drinking Dr Pepper, and asking if they liked their Dr Pepper fizzy or not. Most garnered a few hundred comments. Messages left with Dr Pepper Snapple Group seeking comment were not returned.
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Jeebus freaks losing it over a soda add.
What's up with that?
And we complain about the Taliban?
For shame America, for shame!
Indeed. Because getting a bit bent out of shape over a soda ad is on par with killing a kid because he had an American dollar in his pocket or killing people over a movie that they had nothing to do with.
Makes perfect sense.
William, Exactly! Complaining and ranting about this Dr Pepper ad in NO way is the same as riots and murder in Libya over that film..... BUT, many of the religious right on these Newsvine discussions were screaming freedom of speech when it was anti Muslim, and telling them to get over it.
@ east coast - fundamentalism is fundamentalism. There are plenty of Christians in the US that would love to make it the official religion of the country, and everyone else is a heathen so they don't count.
Not saying that everyone who believes in Creationism is a fundamentalist mind you, just that there are Christians who don't look all that different from the Taliban when you think about it.
I like Dr. Pepper and i like Chik-fil-a. Heck, sometimes i like both at the same time and if i do enough of both maybe i won't be around long enough to listen to anymore of this stupidity..
Let's play a game .... are the below passages from the Taliban's mouth or the Christian Bible?
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children.
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death
Oh Christianity ... so gosh darn warm and fuzzy.
If Romney is looking for a whole group who bemoan themselves as victims, he need look no farther than the charlatans swanning around pretending to be Christians.
If creationists are bothered by anything that promotes or references evolution, they're going to need to boycott a lot more than just Dr. Pepper. Like all of science and reality. Oh yeah, they're already doing that. Carry on, then.
By the way. We literally are apes, it is a scientific fact.
Scientific Theories are not guesses, they are based on facts and visable/verifiable evidence.
Interesting that if Dr. Pepper had included in their advertisement something that offended gays or gay marriage, people would be screaming and talking of boycott. But when something is printed that offends religious people, we're attacked. So much for respect. A lot of hate going on here,
It's pretty easy to see right through this one with these people ---- they're Pepsi drinkers and shareholders. Cool your jets and have a Dr. Peppa. In fact, fire one up and go look for some shooting stars. And have another Peppa while you're at it...
Maaaaaan, oh maaaaaan. Different strokes for different folks, but these people are reeeeeeeeal strokers!
This may be the "militant" atheist in me .... but I'm starting to think if an individual is boycotting evolution (a simple, fundamental principle that all of the biological sciences are based off), than they should forfeit their rights to health care, prescription drugs, etc.
Ya know, that's why I love the Amish. They're religious as hell ... but they mind their own damn business and don't feel the need to take the whole of humanity down with their archaic, personal beliefs.
I used to be much more civil and open on these boards, but enough is getting to be just about enough with these religious wackjobs (on ALL sides).
I think I like the grumpy me better,
Bah
When did the empirical, factual and provable become a matter for discussion? Granted, there are gaps in the fossil record but more to the point the operative term is... "gaps" not gaping, yawning, bottomless holes. To conflate "gaps" with a proof or plausible argument against evolution is a simpleton's strategy and a last stand for these village idiots! Honestly, these individuals can only wrap their mind around a small town, provincial and laughably... Republican White male God. God is big, he/she/it is about deep time, multi-verses, relatively infinite space and a natural world predicated on "natural" laws. If you jump off a 30 foot cliff you die and your TV, PC, Central Heat and Air and car work because of scientific principle... not magic or Jesus juice! Evolve!
I get so tired of the crazy ones hijacking a perfectly good faith. Why do the nut jobs get all the press?
I think the ad points out the weakness in the theory of evolution. All of a sudden Dr. Pepper shows up with no inventor or creator...
Science has yet to show a complete fossil line that actually shows one species becoming another. This hinders the theory's acceptance by those who instead of relying upon blind faith, want science to provide physical evidence that the theory is correct. Even evolutionists have admitted that this is a problem for the theory they champion.
The funny thing is, you could throw the entire fossil record out the window. It's great that we have it, and there is much to be learned there. But today's evidence and explanations regarding evolution are much more complete and beautiful on the molecular level. Things we are finding out about evolution today, Darwin couldn't have even dreamed of ... not that you could get a creationist to understand this fact.
Look at the numbers. 82% of us say "get a grip", and the ones who are getting their panties in a twist comprise 3%.
Three. Percent.
It's amazing how these fanatics try to make themselves appear to be a majority, when they're anything but.
I haven't seen any embassies burning or bodies being carted off so comparing facebook posts to the taliban is a bit of a stretch.
*pops open a DP*
Er, have you read the book?
Sorry, but we don't really need to judge faith by its fundamentalists .... we can simply read their books for that.
for starters, its only an ad to sell soda, not on the basis of selling evolution, but soda with a little crooked smile. in this country, unlike some we have freedom of religion, as well speech. if you believe in or about something, then you have a right to do that. you can grab a soap box, set it on a corner and start to beller your ideals. (as long as you do not disturb people inside dwellings) you can post a billboard, or any other type of ad to make a point, or sell it.
that said, you can say what you like about such ads. point is, its ok to have your own personal thoughts, feelings, and such because we live in this great country, where soon, going the direction it has been, will no longer have when our grand, or great grandchildren arrive.
all the bickering over small stuff, when there are larger issues far greater at stake. imagine this... if all these people who want to make a stand on a small issue went head on into the big issues what could be accomplished.
jkatze
i dont think you have a clue to what you are talking about, and to get your own personal attention, have to bring players who have NO dealings with the subject. you have no clue to religion from what i see, and are entitled to that. but if you need to get attention by changing the subject, i think that falls along the lines of being a troll?
"Science has yet to show a complete fossil line that actually shows one species becoming another."
There are many such lines. But they would not be necessary to prove evolution anyway.
StMichael
You should probably know what evolution is before you make comments like that. It's quite clear you haven't got a clue.
By the way:
"I think the ad points out the weakness in the theory of creation. All of the sudden a creator shows up with no inventor or creator..."?
See what I did there ;)
Granted, there are gaps in the fossil record but more to the point the operative term is... "gaps" not gaping, yawning, bottomless holes. To conflate "gaps" with a proof or plausible argument against evolution is a false argument! Examples of natural selection abound and some have been seen in real time. More to the point, the Bible is a compilation of written work derived from multiple sources and commissioned by the Emperor Constantin! It is at best divinely inspired... but nevertheless written by man! The six days of creation are plainly a metaphor, a mistake by the author (a Human Being) or a metaphor. Finally, what is a day in the mind of God and is the act of creation no less magnificent if over the course of billions of years? God made a natural universe not a magical kingdom where angels dance on the head of a pin!
Extreme liberals complain about things such as a reference to "God" on our coins and extreme conservatives complain about things such as a Dr. Pepper ad depicting evolution.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Most sensible people aren't too concerned about either.
Chad: That came out of the mouth of Moses and not God. It was also part of the old testament and not new. The new testament involves a whole different outlook. Personally, I think one of the reasons Christ came was because man just didn't get it, and of course salvation. At any rate, "Christians" have been guilty of mass murders in the name of God. I don't think God is happy when evil is done in His name, regardless of religious affiliation.
Chad, your getting worked up over a couple people upset over an ad. They are not fire bombing anything, and make up a very small percentage of christians. Sorry, your anger towards this is dumber than they are.
"They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses"
Try again.
Yes, this is a common tactic of Christians. The problem is, they sure do love using the Old Testament when it suits their own purpose. Maybe you haven't heard of the whole "gay" debate in this country?
Also, you Christians do realize the 10 Commandments are from the Old as well, correct? It's funny how they use these as their moral compass in defining their "Christian" values ... but when you remind them of all the other pieces in the Old Testament ... well, all of the sudden it's something "they don't ascribe" to.
The idea that "god gets mad" or involves himself in the affairs of man is absurd. That's the whole point. We've created our gods in our own image. And with that, we've given him all our faults.
Time to grow up.
And the Christians will be the first ones to tell you there are no similarities between them and Muslims.
To be completely fair, however, sometimes one can be too close to the picture and and it takes an objective observer to see the whole thing. I am neither Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; the practitioners of my belief system were around WAY before they were--we worshipped the Great Mother back when humankind was living in caves and finger-painting on the walls. Practically every belief system in the world has tried to wipe us out, from the Greco-Roman polytheists to the Jews, Christians, Muslims, and witches are still being persecuted today.
They don't seem to see that each religion has evolved. The Jews are one of the oldest religions, they have by and large achieved an equilibrium between religious convictions, beliefs and secular laws. Christians are almost there--they have mostly gotten to that balance with a few hiccups here and there like abortion (self-professed Chrisitians blowing up abortion clinics) homosexuality (insisting that the government stick with laws that deny certain right to gays/lesbians even when that secular government is supposed to stand for equality and separation of church and state) and contraception (in claiming that the secular world is forcing our views down their throats they miss the fact that the status quo is shoving their beliefs on the secular world.)
The Jews went though this phase of killing everyone who disagreed with them back in the time of Jesus. The Christians went through their 'let's kill everyone who doesn't agree with us' back in the Middle Ages with the Inquisition (and are on the tail end of that period.) The Muslims are now on the edge of that evolutionary phase. They are resisting it bit more, but eventually they will get there. It's just a matter of time.
What you're seeing is simply the natural evolution of a religion. Can someone make an ad about that?
Who's getting "worked" up?
I'm rather having a good time, actually.
This discussion has nothing to do with a beverage ad ... something tells me you know better than that though, don't you?
I guess this means Chick-Fil-A will have to stop selling Dr Pepper, since they obviously are on opposing sides of the 'origin of the universe' fence...
Shame too, since I like both. I also am a Christian who believes that the one "day" God took to create the animals, trees, people, etc., wasn't the same amount of time my day is. It's even in the Bible that our measure of time is not the same as the Almighty's. Ever made something out of clay as a kid and when you had the basic sugar bowl, you tweaked little things about it? Made handles, put a heart shaped handle on the lid instead of the round ball everyone else was doing, cut a little notch in the base so the spoon could stick out when the lid was on, etc., until it was just right and very often, the finished product looks very different from the way it started out.
Snakes, of course, took about 2 seconds of that "day". You just take a little bit of "snake matter" and rub it vigorously between your hands, just like that little kid with clay. Voila, instant snake. No wonder there are so many of them! God must've said "wow, these are a cinch!" (thank you, Gary Larson!!)
true, it takes an un-natural type of event to form a fossil. when there is a discovery, its usually in some form of sediment. when an animal or other dies, the bones usually become soft with exspoosure to elements, and as materials of the bone degrade, with exsposure, so goes the possiblility of creating a fossil.
this is the reason why we would have better luck, building a ship to reach another solar system, before we find 1 true fossilised chain of evolution. why are there chimps/apes if we derrived from them? possibility would be, in their course of evolution, DNA or other factors (enviroment) very well could have prevented some from evolving. evolution comes from the need to adapt to changes on the planet in the way it forms. we have however seen evolution take place in our time. as well when a species becomes exstinct... it isnt always man who is behind it either, tho we do try to prevent it from happening in some cases.
Sigh. The problem is that people need to stop viewing this as a "debate". It's not, it's just rhetoric used by religious raisin cakes to make it seem like there are two sides to this issue. Gravity is a theory too. Evolution has plenty of believable, scientific evidence and anyone who questions this hasn't bothered to try and learn about it outside the denialists who pander to anyone lacking critical thinking skills i.e. the lowest common denominators. The same goes for climate change... THESE ISSUES ARE NOT ACTUALLY CONTROVERSIAL!
Used to be the god-freaks just wanted to do their own religion in their own way. Now they want everyone else to "feel the religion", too...while keeping their dastardly belief in SCIENCE quiet so the freaks can loudly and clearly praise the lord wherever and whenever they choose...
It's just like everything else. Don't like the ad, don't buy the pop. Simple as that. Speak with your pocketbook...just like you do at church. Pretty simple.
It's official, creationists are even bigger LOSERS than the rioting muslims.
Evolution is NOT FACT, it is only A THEORY.
And not a great one, its pretty obvious that NO, we are not monkeys.
Thats an idea that is based in zero fact and the theory of it is much sillier than any religion.
Thank goodness they didn't depict the Prophet Mohammed drinking a Dr. Pepper. There would be blood.
Only 4% disliked the ad - seems like 40% of the posts here (at Newsvine, in general) are being made by 4% of the people when it comes to religion...not a big shocker.
Mike, evolution is both a fact AND a theory, but neither one says we are monkeys. (Primates yes, monkeys no).
Sorry, Mikey--drug-resistant pathogens are absolute proof of evolution! Make sure you take your antibiotics completely to avoid any more of that pesky evolution in the bacterial world...
"creationists are even bigger LOSERS than the rioting muslims"
Well, I'm sure the rioting Muslims ARE creationists, but I think you'd have to say that the violent ones are the bigger losers.
usagi- exactly!!! With as many times as Genisis must have been translated and passed along verbally before it reached the form we have today, how do we know that 'day' didn't start out as 'period of time' in the original version? (and the story of creation is actually a pretty decent super-simplified explaination of our planet's geological and evolutionary history).
As a Catholic with a Bachelor's in Science degree, I have absolutely no trouble reconciling faith and science. I think I'd have a harder time trying to believe in just one or the other.
Creationism has no basis in fact either,using your argument. You are guided by a book written 2,000 years ago and rewritten hundreds if not thousands of times after that. The people in that day thought the earth was flat. These people were just trying to explain what was going on around them at the time. They did not have the equipment or knowledge that we have today. People keep talking about gaps in the fossil records but why is there not human remains found with the Dinosaurs? If man was on earth from day one with all other living creatures why are there not multitudes of fossil finds with prehistoric animals and humans.
For the Creationists out there...
Have you noticed that there is a vanishingly small number of Jewish Creationists? Why is that, given that both Christianity and Judaism have Genesis in common?
Lewis Black explained your misunderstanding - "It's not your fault. It's not your book."
I agree that it is just an ad and not something to get all upset about. But at the same time, I do agree with other posters who stated that if this ad in any way offended gays or other races, then those would be justified for getting upset. But since Christians are the ones feeling upset, they are put down and made fun of. Luckily, when all is said done, Jesus will get the final word no matter what those say who put down Christians.
I have not had a Dr Pepper in 40 years, crap product with or without the add.
How can this possibly make sense to you?
Sexual preference and race are biochemical extracts of the human condition. I didn't choose to be a straight, white male with a magnificent package between my legs* ... but that's what I am, that's how I was born, and that is something I'll just have to live with.
Personally, I don't get offended when people make fun of white people, or black people, etc. Life is WAY too damn short to walk around offended all the time over trivial @!$%# that ignorant people say. But I fail to see how any of this has to do with religionist's blatant denial of science?
Yes, evolution is science. Get over it. If you must believe in a magic man and insist on rubbing yourself in fairy dust, have fun (maybe I can join that party at a later date), but leave your preconceived notions of truth and personal biases at the door when dealing the realm of reality.
That's because you guys make it so damn fun (and easy) to make fun of.
Hate to break it to you dude, but the last thing on Earth Jesus would be if he were around today, is a Christian.
*This was just for effect .... I'm really quite average.
I blame 99% of what people get upset about on our school system!
Our education system is causing these flacks because of their repeated failure to make 1 class mandatory for all prior to graduation.
Putting on your big girl panties 101
The remaining 1% I blame on the sun and tanning salons. I think they are contributing to making people thin skinned.
You know this weirdo logic must come along with the "god-gene". NO ONE ATTACKED YOUR RELIGION. Why is that so hard for you to get? No one said Christians are stupid but I can tell you I'm getting dangerously close. Someone used something that 95% of the world believes is fact to do a silly ad for a soda. You yoyos come in and DEMAND it be taken down. It isn't even making fun of creationism. It's making fun of evolution. It's a public forum. You don't have to come to it. No one is forcing you.
YOUR RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT ENDS WHERE MY NOSE BEGINS.
You froot loops do not get to tell everyone on planet earth what to think because if they don't think what you think it offends you.
GET OVER YOURSELVES. You just aren't that damned special. In fact you're boring as sh*t with all of this constant carping about people who don't see the world like you see it.
Evolution is not FACT. LOL I'll believe that when my sh*t turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert.
I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus! That's my own business. But I don't don't don't go to church anymore because you never know what you're going to say that will put you on a so-called Christian's sh**-list and the problem with that is: They will cherry pick a verse from the Bible and throw it at you (like pharisees throwing stones at the woman who sinned) John 8:1-11. Jesus challenged them to reflect on their own lives, and if even one was without sin, let that icon of idealism pitch the first fragment. Jesus was an individualist, as am I, and would have hated (I believe) the way churches and the people in them function) but He would have loved all people, despite our imperfections. I feel certain He would want us to eat and drink in a healthy manner (overall), yet He probably would have sat and had a Dr. Pepper with someone and discussed evolution and scientific method in a personal fashion on a hill, or by our beautiful Snake River, imparting wisdom His way...
I didn't know Christians were in to icecream assplay.
Chad, sorry my context confused you. I'll believe evolution is NOT FACT when my stuff turns purple.
Although I do believe your assessment on christians is correct. lol
How horrible that a soda manufacturer would incorporate well established scientific facts into an advertisement!! They should remain firmly in the realm of the mystical so as not to upset anyone ... well, unless their mystical approach is different from someone else's. The only safe thing? Don't advertise.
Kind of like how GOD just suddenly shows up with no inventor or creator...
Science has yet to show a complete line of evidence that GOD exists, too -- yet there is not one Fundamentalist Christian who does not believe that it/she/he exists "just because" (you know, the BLIND FAITH thing). Even Religionists have admitted that this is a HUGE problem for the theory THEY champion.
We have transitional fossils. There are NO gaps.
I wonder how many of these same self-proclaimed "Defenders of The Christian Faith" would be screaming about the "hatred" in the ad if it were a non-ambiguously-non-Christian such as a Pagan, or Wiccan, or Druid, or Taoist, or MUSLIM drinking the soda?
That's right, all you "how dare you promote Evolution and make a mockery of Christianity, you're gonna go to hell for it!" nutjobs would be telling the Muslims to just "get over it already".
"But when something is printed that offends religious people, we're attacked."
But the problem is that the ad has absolutely nothing to do with religion, so it is inexplicable that anyone should take offense. Evolution is a basic scientific fact understood by all educated people. If your religion suggests you should be offended by reality, that is your problem, not ours.
Thank you Greg. We do have transitional fossils. I was quite pissed when I discovered this when my family moved from Texas to Maryland where schools taught FACTS! I think my whole Zooology class thought I was bat s$*# crazy when we traced the evolution of life from the first living organism. I hadn't even learned of Lucy until the 11th grade!
The whole...why are there still apes argument drives me even more insane. Please learn what evolution is before making such ridiculous comments. It's like saying I'm here... then why is my great uncle still alive??? Just STUPID. Please put that argument to rest!
More Dr. Pepper for me!
@ Greg2438150. Thank you. I love how anyone who doesn't believe in evolution looks at all the fossil evidence, DNA evidence, migratory evidence and throws all logical reasoning out the window. Makes much more sense the we were poofed here by some omnipotent being.
You gotta be kidding... are there really people living in the real world that are offended by this ad. I guess the flat earth society IS alive and well.
Seriously, I feel nothing pity for anybody that believes the earth is 6700 years old and says that evolution is a lie.... their just as stupid as the Muslims that attack Americans because of a supposed insult to Islam.
So Dr Pepper does this and Christians want to boycott, yet the Christians get mad when people boycotted Chick Fil A over their stance on gay marriage? Pot/Kettle.....
I think I figured why creationists are against evolution. They don't like the phrase "Monkey see, Monkey do" They would rather have something like "god say, you do"
Kathryne your post #1.49
You said " I feel certain He (Jesus) would want us to eat and drink in a healthy manner (overall), yet He probably would have sat and had a Dr. Pepper with someone and discussed evolution and scientific method in a personal fashion on a hill, or by our beautiful Snake River, imparting wisdom His way..."
As a non-believer I thought that was a pretty cool post. I wish more people would have an open mind like that.
Southern Black Churches. Hell yeah yall. Why isn't anybody saying anything about that. This is White American Christians against The middle Easterners. All Politics. Normal people don't think and act like the people claim on this post. Nobody is yelling in the streets "In the name of Christ" and then blow up a building. Come on people it's 2012 not 912a.d. Lets get it together. thx
Haterofstupid - Let me echo your kudos. I consider myself Christian, but possess sentiments closer to Kathryne's. As a group, we could affect a lot more positive change in this world (as I think Jesus may have wanted) if we could all adopt such an attitude.
Let's face it my fellow Christians, if you are not always aspiring to love, peace, and a greater understanding of your fellow men and women, then you are not following Christ. Put all your other political leanings and collectivist ideologies aside. Too many of you claim yourselves to be a false god when you walk around acting as if you have any right to judge others on nothing more than your faith, which you devalue every time you try to force it upon someone else.
That one guy said it best: “The day your faith is shaken by a Dr Pepper ad is the day you should probably start reconsidering your faith.”
Okay my question is for both sides of the fence. Where is the proof? If we came from an explosion where's the proof? Why can't I go to a beach and set off a firecracker and have grains of sand form into a tiny planet with life and everything needed to sustain it? Why is a physically inadequate species the ruler of the planet? If species evolve for better survival why did people develop useless survival skills like playing music or painting a picture? Why do we have emotions? If we came from God where's the proof? Why aren't Christians performing what their Bible says they should? Why aren't they healing the sick and raising the dead? Why are they instead one of the biggest promoters of hate? Doesn't their Bible say that their savior came to "save" the Earth and not to condemn it? I say no matter what you believe stop running your mouths and prove it.
What are we, a nation of freaking muslums?
PS, Chad, Moses was Jewish. So your comment about Christianity, fun-fun, is wrong.
Personally, I'm Christian and I believe the theory of evolution is correct. I think the creationists take things a little too far when they look at everything in the Bible as absolute truth and not, say, creation stories.
There is remnants of the BB that they have detected. The rest of your questions sound like a 2nd graders. Get real.
Greg really? Ha just like a typical ignorant person who know the "answer" when faced with a difficult question they deflect it. If you can't answer a 2nd grade question, you might want to reconsider voicing your opinion so loud. You're as bad as a Christian whose reply is "because the Bible says".
Because we have evolved were we are the most intelligent beings on the planet. Brain over brawn always wins.
Survival is at the top of priority. As we advanced with had more time discovering things we can do.
Emotions is not just a human trait. We inherited it from our ancestors
Why don't myth believers follow the writings of the myth book?
It really doesn't matter. Since it's a personal god they should be concerned about themselves.
There happy now?
usagi-sensei (#1.29)
Bingo!
My sentiments exactly.
@Greg: That's better than just deflecting the question I guess, but you're still providing nothing but opinions and representing them as fact; which goes against the basic rules of science, and your inability to realize that indicates lack of intelligence. It may not seem like it, but you would have sounded more intelligent if you said "I don't know why we developed those skills. I'm sure there is an answer, but I don't know it." That's a lot better than "we had more time to develop other skills" that is an opinion! Here is my opinion: you have no idea why we developed those skills. Another opinion is "brain over brawn wins every time" a quick glance at the history of warfare will tell you how ignorant representing that as fact is. My opinion on that is, you heard that old saying and thought it would fit nicely. I hope you don't continue to represent your useless opinions as fact. It's sad (that's an opinion). By the way learning the difference between opinion and fact is probably something you should have learned in 2nd grade.
I never stated them as scientific facts. You asked 2nd grader questions and I answered them with my opinion. I didn't have to but I did. My opinion is you're a POS that thinks he's smart. That is sad. BTW DF brain over brawn has triumphed through out history... DS.
Sorry that you became frustrated and your only way of showing it is to resort to insults. By the way if brain has triumphed over brawn. We probably would have lost World War 2 because the Germans were for more technologically advanced than any other country (Just look at their inventions), but because of our numbers and brute force we overcame their intellectual superiority. Not to mention how smart the Japanese were, but they lost to brute force as well. Any way maybe one day you'll be able to say more than there is "all this proof" (that someone has somewhere, I guess) and actually have proof to back up what you represent as fact like the Big Bang Theory; if it were fact then the debate could be put to rest, but not even the top evolutionary scientists can agree on what is fact and what isn't. Until then you should stop trying to belittle people who have the same amount of "proof" of what they believe in as you; ZERO!
What a little person you are. If you have the balls to look back at the comments you will see you started the insults. Germany lost because it create a war on two fronts Russia and the West. Again you don't know what you're saying. Japan lost because of brain. It's called the atomic bomb and if it wasn't dropped we would had a long drawn out war.
Your ignornace is showing. Science does not provide facts. Although you could make a strong argument that scientific theories are fact because it is science strongest findings. Noting is fact in science. It basically says this is the strongest evidence. dolt.
Actually the first comment I left on here was questions to both sides of the argument of evolution and creationism and you replied in arrogance with condescending remarks about being 2nd grade questions. Since then you have leveled insults in practically every reply back. I'm sorry you become confused and frustrated and show it with insults and hostility. Maybe you get that from our "Ape ancestors" (I'm not sure). Any way I'm done with this conversation. I like to talk with people who present their thoughts in an intellectual manner and don't become frustrated when presented with questions, and throw a tantrum (it reminds me of 2nd grade). Oh by the way your thoughts on World War 2 are debatable, but at least you're presenting a view with some evidence to back your claim. I bid you farewell sir or madam and hope one day you can "evolve".
@Gibson
I'm not an astrophysicist, but I do know there is an abundant amount of evidence and measurable data to highlight the presence of the natural phenomenon we now call the "Big Bang".
Have you ever heard of cosmic microwave background radiation? How about the red light shift? This showed scientists that not only the universe wasn't static, but that it was actually on an ever-accelerating pace of expansion. Now, after you research these, think of it more in layman's terms ... if you film an explosion through to its entirety, and then rewind the film backwards, you will reach a singularity point of origin, ergo: The Big Bang.
To Greg's point, this is a rather silly question. If you are truly interested in this subject, I would maybe look into some of Neil deGrasse Tyson's work. He actually explains the building blocks of life rather beautifully. In essence, the big bang didn't simply shat us into existence. But it forged ahead the process and matter for the creation of high-mass stars, which are essentially the factories in which produced the molecules needed for carbon-based lifeforms.
“Recognize that the very molecules that make up your body, the atoms that construct the molecules, are traceable to the crucibles that were once the centers of high mass stars that exploded their chemically rich guts into the galaxy, enriching pristine gas clouds with the chemistry of life. So that we are all connected to each other biologically, to the earth chemically and to the rest of the universe atomically. That’s kinda cool...that makes me smile and I actually feel quite large at the end of that. It’s not that we are better than the universe, we are part of the universe. We are in the universe and the universe is in us.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
Are we?
Last time I checked, our species can be brought down rather quickly by a virus a trillionth our size. To say we are the "ruler of the planet" only speaks to our own ego-perversions and illusions of grandeur.
A large asteroid could take us out tomorrow and the planet (nor the cosmos) would even bat an eye. It would simply heal and renew itself so the next species could rise and feel "superior" to all the rest, create their own religions to make them feel special, etc, etc.
We are a pattern-seeking species. These evolutionary traits make perfect sense while looking through an evolutionary lens. Culture, art, language ... while we can think of these as rather trivial things (and still get caught up on the false notion of "survival of the fittest") we forget that we never would have made it this far without these lighter aspects of out species.
If we decided to just smash each other in the face, well .... we would have just smashed each other in the face.
But if we decided to sit down ... share in experience ... develop modes of communication to relay those experiences ... create art, poetry and language to better bridge those cultural gaps in our archaic understanding of these experiences ... well. We never would have made it this far.
There is none, nor should there be. God's are based on faith, not science. The tricky part is helping the believers understand this fact.
Note image of Post-Pepper man.
Post-Pepper = distracted walker = accident waiting to happen = potential Darwin Award recipitent.
Now THAT's irony!... :D
Dr. Pepper is trying to sell soft drinks, so why piss off a group of potential customers? Their money is green too. It's not good business sense to piss off any group unnecessarily.
"Evolution is NOT FACT, it is only A THEORY."
"And not a great one, its pretty obvious that NO, we are not monkeys."
"Thats an idea that is based in zero fact and the theory of it is much sillier than any religion."
(sigh)
gravity is a theory, trickle-down economics is a (proven failure of a )theory, etc.
@Iseeconfusedpeople Listen moron you'll learn something, evolution is a fact take a look at the bone structure of a whale's flipper and compare that to the bone structure of a human hand and you will see that the structure is nearly identical, combine that with the fossil record evidence you get a fact. Calling it a theory in science means its a scientific theory which has the definition of "A scientifically accepted general principle supported by a substantial body of evidence offered to provide an explanation of observed facts and as a basis for future discussion or investigation" and to mention that gravity is a theory shows how utterly ignorant you are in fact its been incorporated into Newton's Law of Gravitation which when tested was confirmed thus confirming gravity. Until you open your eyes to how the world actually works you probably shouldn't reproduce we already have enough idiots to deal with.
EJM - I'd buy a poster of that ad. Good form sir, good form.
wt, for some reason the block quote function isn't showing up on this particular thread, the first part "that I did put quotes on) was mike trashman's comments
Maybe because like me they could care less if some tiny little group of misguided zealots gets their panties in a twist over a f*cking comical ad. If something like that upsets you, I wouldn't care if you bought my product or not.
Oh no something that doesn’t agree with my Bronze Age book full of falsehoods and ignorance I must scream and cry until they take it down. This sounds familiar. Isn’t that the same thing going on in the Middle East just with less violence in this case?
And yet they never seem to follow the dietary laws laid out in the bible.
There are laws on how to sell your daughters into slavery in there too. Which is why I laugh when people say they take the Bible word for word, instead of looking at it like it actually is: A historical book written and put together by men in power, translated by men in power more than a few times and is therefore imperfect. There are good lessons to take from it, but the overall message needs to be one of compassion and love, not hating those who don't agree with it.
Oh I love the response for that one the "oh that’s the old testament it doesn't count, we are under the new testament now" oh really then why all the animus us towards gays.
Another funny thing: If I recall correctly, the new testament was written 400 years after the death of Christ.... so exactly how accurate do we thing that is going to be? I'm not atheist by any means, I just try to keep an open mind about things in general...
actually the books of the new testament as we know them were selected at about that time by the counsel of Nicea the first known copies of any of the gospels are from around forty or fifty CE. Of course then you have the KJV which dropped a few books and retranslated and that fun stuff.
Ah ha, that's what it was, thanks for the correction Doug.
@ Brokeinarrow.
Hell, even Jesus didn't know he was a god until Constantine made him one, 325 years after he married Mary Magdalen, moved to the French riviera had a few kids and died happily in bed.
i think there is a misconception as to the standing of Jesus. he was like we are a child of god, but also a prophet. 1 of the 10 commandments, base of christian beliefs state "there shall be no other false gods before thee" (exsact statement varies), and there for Jesus is not god, but a son, (child of god) such as ourselves. its proven, being a virgin and having concieved is more than entirely possible.
being as it is, i worship god, and respect the fact that Jesus was his son of course. what happend 2,012 yrs ago.... i have a hard time looking at that, how the world was then, to now finding accuracy in historical events, and words spoken. media back then was small, but most powerful tool, because it went by word of mouth. (we all know what that can lead to) perhaps the devils greatest trick was not exsisting, but not his only trick either.
I’m sorry but I think you are mistaken. There is NO evidence that a human woman can conceive a child and still be a virgin with out artificial insemination. And as for the Jesus being the son and profit but not god you will have to take that up with the vast majority of the Christians living today
Evolution is NOT FACT, it is only A THEORY.
And not a great one, its pretty obvious that NO, we are not monkeys.
Thats an idea that is based in zero fact and the theory of it is much sillier than any religion.
Quit spamming, Mikey...
Repeating yourself does not make your claim any more true. Evolution occurs. All the time. There is no dispute about that, except by those who cannot reconcile their faith with the actual world we live in.
If people are claiming the Bible as reasoning for their homophobia, they've been following the old testament. I personally try to follow the general message of the new testament (play nice and care about others), and view the old testament as more of a history book. I refuse to do all the animal sacrifices it requires- too noisy and messy!
Mike - no matter how many times you write the same comment, it won't mean anything. Scientific theory is not the same as conversational theory. Scientific theory has to be supported by vast amounts of evidence. Theory in everyday speak is a guess. The word 'theory' is a homonym. It has 2 different meanings.
@Doug - Oh I love the response for that one the "oh that’s the old testament it doesn't count, we are under the new testament now" oh really then why all the animus us towards gays.
The Old Testament is not alone in speaking against same gender sex. The New Testament has plenty to say ... one such example is Romans 1: 26-28. But I agree that there is no excuse for animosity towards gays, as Jesus taught us to love others. Judgement is His alone.
I think you mean those that can't tie their shoe laces without a diagram.
No further need for sacrifices ... Jesus was the perfect and final sacrifice for our sins. Old Testament sacrifices were symbolism for the future work of Christ. As Jesus said as He surrendered His life, "It is finished!"
@ Mike The Trashman
What a troll. Evolution is the most scrutinized theory in history. Over 150 yrs and not a dent. BTW you need to look up the definition of scientific theory. If you are too lazy just equate to the "fact".
Um... why would an all powerful, creator of the universe even require any kind of blood-letting sacrifice. Do you really think God ever got off on smelling the smoke of animal flesh and the display of animal entrails? Does His son have to go to every habital planet in the universe, and die there too, to satisfy the blood lust of his father? And when he goes to other planets, to die senselessly, do those inhabitants complain that the son of the creator of the universe is an alien from planet Earth? You see, it's so clear that God was created in the image of man, not the other way around.
Humble human...that last sentence was DEEP.
It's silly that we can't be amazed at the freaking AMAZING world and universe we live in without creating our own Santa Claus to explain it. Life is magical enough without having to create a magical being to make sense of it all.
Doug-breaking news! just now a bomb was found outside by some trucks at the distribution center. Those damned Jews, stirring up trouble again. On another note. Ban imported hoodies from China.
In the survey response choices, it's "I COULDN'T care less"...., let's stop the devolution of English grammar, especially from a news source.
Calvin,
Actually, both are commonly used, and neither is considered THE correct one.
Such is the English Language.
They're both commonly used, but only one is grammatically correct, and the correct phrase is Couldn't care less.
If you say you could care less, you're not saying that you don't care, you're saying you could care a little less than you already do which is probably not your intent when you say it.
If you say you "couldn't care less", you are saying that you have bottomed out on the caring scale for whatever it is you're commenting on. This is the most common idea that people are trying to convey when they use the phrase, it says this doesn't interest me at all.
Just because there are people that commonly misuse the phrase doesn't make it correct English, unless of course they actually do care and there's room for caring less.
How about professional newscasters who say "Could-dent, Did-dent, etc? Most of these folks have no idea what the enclitic is as they certainly don't use it properly!
For all intensive purposes, they mean the same thing. ;-)
Scubasteve..."Intensive purposes"?
Not to further the grammar police thing here, but it's "for all intents and purposes", Scubasteve. Then again, you used italics. so maybe you knew that, and were just having a little fun.
"couldn't care less" is the proper phrase. as in, you could not care less about understanding the english language.
Thank you fellow Brit!
You give these people a perfectly good language and they f*** it up. ;-)
@ PissedoffinAZ
Actually Scuba steve did't use italics, you mean "quotation" marks.
@ woodysr
Don't get me started; here's a few of my pet peeves:
No I ditten do it - Fallenwinner handbags - Ponniack - birfday
And the best of the bunch: Seckunt as in first, seckunt and third.
Makes I larf, I tell yer.
What they should have is an option that says, "No, I'm not offended. All evidence points to the validity of the theory of evolution, even though the original march of progress illustration is no longer considered scientifically accurate."
I could care less is a sarcastic inversion of the original British saying I couldn't care less. Similar to saying "tell me about it" when you really mean I don't want to hear it or "I should be so lucky" meaning I'll never be that lucky. That being said, I don't think think the author of the question was really trying to sarcastic, but they might have been...
The meaning may differ but "I could care less" is grammatically correct.
As in I could care even less then I do now.
Red sailer
Actually Scuba steve did use italics and NO quotation marks. You're mixing up commenters
I do find it funny that some people are using horrible grammar to complain about someone using bad grammar!
First, "both" may "be commonly used" an you may think "neither one is THE correct one" but you're incorrect. As for the comment, "For all intensive purposes, they mean the same thing" that's just scary AND incorrect.
They are complete opposite statements ... think it through "I COULD care less" / "I could NOT care less" ... it's like saying "I HAVE 3 apples" / "I DON'T have 3 apples" .. follow the logic?
Also intensive purpose is just wrong on so many levels. You may have an intense purposes which is still not great grammar but could pass however I think what you're trying to say has nothing to do with a type of purpose(s) I think what you mean is "intents and purposes" ... ouch.
Iraq is seeking "Nuculer" weapons...
Evolution is NOT FACT, it is only A THEORY.
And not a great one, its pretty obvious that NO, we are not monkeys.
Thats an idea that is based in zero fact and the theory of it is much sillier than any religion.
Ok folks, I thought the italics and winking face would get my point across.
I know it's "intents and purposes" and I was just using another common mispronunciation to illustrate that arguing over common phrases when the meaning is known is kind of pointless.
Scubasteve58001 - haha, I'm actually very surprised that so many people actually thought you meant to say "intensive purposes", when you had it in italics, it had nothing to do with the conversation and you put the winky after. Funny.
Mike The Trashman - please learn the difference between theory and scientific theory. You keep repeating this same comment that makes no sense.
Mine is "we're gonna try and go..."
No, you are not. You won't be trying and going at the same time. "And" indicates two things being done at once.
What you mean is "we're going to try to go." HUGE difference.
I see it frequently on this website--the word "to" being replaced with the word "and"
I just want to axe one question. Where did I put my ask?
Many comments from a certain point down are in reference to correct grammar, spelling, etc., not about Dr. Pepper's "artistic design" on the cans.
But I have to admit that I've enjoyed reading those comments!
Thanks or the entertainment/education! (:
New ad campaign: Smart People Drink Dr. Pepper!
(No, actually they don't. Smart people don't regularly drink soda.)
Actually JrzWrld, lifestyles and (bad) habits aren't as closely tied to IQ as you might think. Consider this statement- "Smart people don't live in urban environments because of unhealthy air."
I drink a considerable amount of soda, as I am a caffeine junky and don't like coffee. Probably not the healthiest thing but I also live in a large city.
Life isn't just about how long one lives, but how satisfied one is to have lived it.
Oh my God for crying outloud! Actually, the best evidence for Evolutionary Theory is the observation that these neanderthals react like this.... the good news is that if the theory holds - it is a theory, right? - given about 300 generations the progeny from these Creationist will have evolved to an intelligent state and will recognize how totally stupid their antecedents were!
actually they might not be fit and die off like the Neanderthals ... I hope.
You know that flu vaccine you got last year? Did it work? Great.
So, why do you have to get ANOTHER flu vaccine this year? Is it because the old one “wore off”? No, it is because the flu virus has EVOLVED, and last year’s vaccine is no longer effective for the virus that has since evolved since last year.
That is evolution.
Thanks Dr. Pepper
Creationists don't dispute that organisms change. They dispute that they could change enough that completely new species could arise, and that life could erupt spontaneously from lifelessness.
That is all.
Hey now, that sounds like science. I'm sure the new strain of flu was just created (on the 7th day).
You can teach creationism in the church just as you do with your bible. Creationism has no place in our education system/academia since it's not science. Religion and personal beliefs need to stay out of schools. De-funding public schools to privatize education is just another ploy to get religion and all your non-science based isms into classrooms.
Nice goalpost shift, AngryGuy...
What is the difference between organisms "changing" in one year and "evolving" in a couple million years? I don't see one.
No one ever said that an ancient ape just pooped out a human people! That is too simplistic and an insult to the definatition of evolution.
C'mon... how incredibly uneducated, how stupid, how ignorant must one be to accept the magical, mystical, pie-in-the-sky concept of creation over the well-researched, well-founded, well-supported theory (in name only) of evolution?
You actually believe you are a monkey ? Now THAT is crazy !
Evolution is NOT FACT, it is only A THEORY.
And not at all a realistic one, its pretty obvious that NO, we are not monkeys, and we never were.
Thats an idea that is based in zero fact and the theory of it is much sillier than any religion.
Mike, get an education. You are only embarrassing yourself.
Mike, we heard you the first time, no need to keep repeating the same stupidity.
Not of course that you will read this but humans share 99% of their DNA with chimpanzees and around 98% with gorillas. Probably you think DNA is just a theory or something the liberals made up over LSD and a glass of red wine to make fun of you poor christian types.
Scientific Theory = FACT. That's for the laymen.
actually mike, you are proof that some are closer to "monkeys" than others...
Mike will not be swayed by facts, people like him are totally lost.
"Creationists don't dispute that organisms change. They dispute that they could change enough that completely new species could arise, and that life could erupt spontaneously from lifelessness."
Life has continually branched as evolution proceeds. Humans are a primate along with the apes and chimps. The DNA is almost the same except for a per cent or two. All primates branched from a common ancestor about 6 million years ago. Evolution happened by small changes, adaptions, or mutations over millions, and even billions of years.
No, Trash, I believe I evolved from ancestors to today's monkeys. You however, are proof that evolution does have some failures that result in birth of lower life forms.
religious nuts...
You actually believe you are a monkey ? Now THAT is crazy !
Evolution is NOT FACT, it is only A THEORY.
And not at all a realistic one, its pretty obvious that NO, we are not monkeys, and we never were.
Thats an idea that is based in zero fact and the theory of it is much sillier than any religion.
At least you're spamming a somewhat different post, Mikey...
Mike, there is no theory OR fact that claims we are monkeys.
Mike, point out to us please how you know the Bible is factual. No fair saying,"Becaused the Bible says it is True". That's just lazy logic.
The Bible may well be just and old piece of literature. Prove to me it isn't, with your facts.
It is obvious that "Mike the Trashman" has zero background in science, like most Creationists. It is far easier to believe in mythology, like our forefathers did, than to understand current findings in cosmology and genetics.
now we know why mike is a trashman...
Mike makes us happy that we have the IGNORE feature, for serial trollers.
Free advertising...great marketing idea.
exactly. nuts give them lots of free ads because they take things way too serious
Repeat after me... Creationists, GOP, Tea Baggers... one and the same.... unless you count the guys who think that some guy in NH came down from a mountain and read some plates through "special" glasses....
Beer goggles?
Repeating after you would be repeating a fallacy. How did you come to know the thoughts and beliefs of every member of the Tea Party in the country? You statement has about as much validity as "Liberal Atheist, Democrat... one and the same."
Kevin Bitz - So you're saying there is no thing as a Catholic Democrat? This isn't political. It's strictly religious dogma. Time for the trolls to crawl back under the bridge...
Skup- Catholic doesn't necessarily mean creationist.... In fact, I don't know any Catholics (myself included) that don't believe in evolution. :)
I would say that comparing all Republicans as Creationist as Christian nuts would be the same as Romney saying that all Democrats have their hands out and won't take responsibility for their lives. Not true.
I'm sure there are many more Republicans pretending to be Creationist to promote their personal agendas....
lol couldn't help it.
I went to a family reunion the other day. There were a ton of people there and not a single one of them was a monkey! How can you try to tell me that we're related to monkeys?
Everyone who drinks Dr. Pepper is doomed to burn for all eternity.
Yea baby, I love the tropics. What liquor mixes well with Dr. Pepper.
Captain Morgan or Malibu
/sarcasm
Here we go again,believe the way bob does or burn in hell! You "christians" are always good for a laugh!!
Second the Captain Morgan.
Hundreds of years ago, we still believe heaven is above the sky and hell is below the ground.
How is that working out now? We have object on Mars, which is far above the sky and we drilled so deep below the ground.
Oh, that's right, heaven is in far away place like another planet and where is hell now?
You people with yours thinking of medieval period. Same thinking process of people hundreds of years ago who barely educate and barely understand anything.
Amaretto
I assume this comment is a joke but its not that funny because some people really think that way. People who dont understand evolution are always making comments about monkeys. It just proves that they dont understand evolution. Evolution states if you go back far enough, we are related to every animal (not just monkeys). They never compare us to fish even though there is a stage in the womb where we have gills (leftover from evolution).
The article quotes the person in the article saying if we are related to apes, then why are they still around? Thats like saying if you are related to your grandparents, then why are your cousins still around? If you dont understand evolution, then why do you think you can prove it wrong when scientists who have done years of research in the subject think it is real?
As for the Bible, not everything in it has to be taken literally. Evolution does not prove God does not exist any more than finding a recipe proves there was no cook.
@Ambrosia Brown
I also like to point out that there are a higher being, but the one we come to know as "God" are man-made version. How so many may ask? If you read every religions including Christianity, humans are always the focus of everything like the center of all creation.
I mean there are billions of stars and billions of galaxy and somehow humans are the center of the universe. If that is not proof of man-made, I don't know what is. Somehow God, a being who can create such a vast vast vast universe somehow pay his full attention into this world which like a speck of sand on a beach. That just makes no sense.
I have an uncle that sorta resembles a silverback gorilla..... and two kids that will climb anything in sight (including me). Does that count? ;)
This is my quotable quote for the day,
"Everyone who drinks Dr. Pepper is doomed to burn for all eternity."
Listen, if God is going to get all involved in the soft drink industry and burn people up for drinking the wrong brand then he's certifiable crazy and he's fired... he needs to pack up his desk and go.
I am going to assume that you were being sarcastic, Bob.... you were, weren't you? Please say 'yes.'
We won't even try Bob, because you are unteachable.
Yeah, it's funny for this to come up, I was on a business trip and bought Captain Morgan's and Dr. Pepper for me and my co-workers. Normally I would have gone for Coke, but someone prefered the DP and I didn't care either way. Nice thing was the rum was so much cheeper in Montana than it was in Washington.
I have an uncle that sorta resembles a silverback gorilla..... and two kids that will climb anything in sight (including me). Does that count? ;)
This one gave me a good laugh!
BTW: My ancestors came from Europe. Why are there still Europeans? ;)
I just wanted to see if I could post the most ridiculous thing I could think of in an article that specifically describes how people are trolling on internet message boards and see if people took it seriously.
It's sad that there's no argument too ridiculous to make it impossible to imagine a creationist actually saying it.
Cuong- do you still believe in Budda then?
Tolerate our religion even though we won't tolerate your beliefs. It's a wonder I believed in Christianity as long as I did until I saw the absolute hypocrisy that religion is. This is why religion is destroying the world, absolutely no tolerance for others because people believe their faith prohibits it.
Glad you saw the light, dark shadow no more. Actually the religion of intolerance seems to apply only to those religions based on the bible/torah/koran. Those who read the same book can't stop killing each other. Other non-bible based religions just don't have as many lunatics.
@ DarkShadow - I'm sorry to hear you lost your faith. You've set your eyes on the wrong focus .... it should be set on Jesus Christ, not His followers. We're all sinners and full of fault, thus our need for Christ.
If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. - John 15:19
DarkShadow...you are now truly enlightened. Feels good, exciting, scary and amazing at the same time don't it?
Will the Flat Earth Society protest any depictions of the globe?
Yes, they are saying the whole galaxy or universe is on the back of a turtle now on a vast ocean.
As someone between Agnostic and Atheist I think I have finally found my religion, Dr. Pepper (diet of course).
Holy sh!t people... find something better to do with your time than fight over a stupid FB posting.
And, before anyone comments about my time.. I do but unfortunately the government is not spending right now so I have a little free time until the next GFY.
So... who is threatened by a Dr. Pepper ad? Is The Jesus offended? Is That Dude Named God? I would have to think a guy that can create the universe in six days, and watch NFL football on the seventh, is gonna be cool with a funny soda pop ad. There is no reason for these mental cases to take offense in the name of their "religion". I wonder how many of these mouth-breathers gripe about the Muslims doing the same thing about a dumb movie? Is this what these idiots mean by American exceptionalism? That they take exception to anything they can't comprehend?
WWJD*
*What Would Jesus Drink?
I love it, what fun. I don't particularly like Dr. Pepper but I will buy it now just because they had the gonads to travel down that road.
Actually those that don't want to understand Evolution need to be called out all the time. Forget having the balls.
I don't know which side is worse, the conservative Christians who think a soft drink ad is an attack on their faith, or the science freaks who keep pointing out that the ad is a misleading representation of the theory of evolution. IT'S A FRIGGING AD, PEOPLE! It's not a commentary on your faith OR a science lesson. Get over it.
I just can't wait for that blithering idiot Rick Santorum to say his piece.
Great ad! And breaking news - researchers have just confirmed that JC is drinking Vino de Dr. Pepper in Da Vinci's Last Supper and have confirmed the legitimacy of a coptic note from Mrs. JC recommending Dr. Pepper for anyone preparing for a trip to the great beyond.
The funny thing is that only Creationists, not those who see the evidence pointing to evolution, think that biological evolution states that humans evolved from apes. Any 10th grade biology student that works with the idea will tell you that humans and apes are related. Humans are not descendants of apes. While the Dr. Pepper ad is fun, it does allow the uniformed (and those without a sense of humor) to get worked up.
Excatly, chimps didnt turn into humans, we shared a common ancestor a million years ago.
Actually, we did evolve from apes and we are still apes. Just a different branch on the tree than gorillas etc.
Kind of like comparing a rabbit and a hare. Same main branch, different sub-branch on the tree.
Do you mean the uniformed, people of the military, are getting worked up? Ha, ha! Couldn't resist doing a take off on your typo!! I know you meant unINformed! Which goes to show EYE have a sense of humor!LOL!