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Women want to be able to breast feed their babies when and where they want to. Witness the “nurse-ins” at Target stores on the West Coast last week that were prompted by a shopper who was mocked for breast feeding by employees at one Target. Moms, however, also want to be able to breast feed when they’re on the clock.
To that end, help is here. A new law, which was tucked into Obama’s health care reform legislation, is already helping to make breast-feeding at work easier.
The Affordable Care Act, which was signed into law in March 2010, amended the Fair Labor Standards Act, and for the first time employers are now federally mandated to provide women with breaks and a place to breastfeed. The final rules regarding the law have not been finalized, but that hasn’t stopped the Department of Labor’s Wage and Hour division’s enforcers from going after employers who don’t make accommodations for working moms who want to pump.
Already, 23 companies have been cited by the agency, according to Sonia Melendez, a spokeswoman for the Labor Department.
“The department intends to continue enforcing the law based on the statutory language,” she said. “Until the department issues final guidance, the request for information provides useful information for employers to consider in establishing policies for nursing employees.”
Employers can’t sit on the sidelines and wait for the final rules because the Labor Department may slap a fine on a company or at least force it to make breast-feeding accommodations.
“It’s been the law for a while and they don’t have to have the final regulations to be able to enforce it,” said Carrie Hoffman, a partner with Gardere Wynne Sewell LLP in Dallas, who represents employers.
The new law, she continued, is hardest for smaller firms to comply with, and for retailers in particular where space is at a premium. But, she added, she’s advising her clients to start thinking about how they’ll be able to make adjustments in the workplace to provide time and a location, besides a bathroom, for women to breast feed.
Here’s a list from the Department of Labor of some of the better-known companies that have already been cited at certain locations under the law:
- Dollar General: Violations – Failure to provide adequate space and failure to provide reasonable time (Agreed to comply and agreed to pay $814.43 in back wages). A Dollar General spokeswoman said the company was cited at one of its locations, adding that it could not discuss the particulars of the case. "I can say that we have a policy in place that is communicated to our employees through our employee handbook which explains our compliance with the new regulations. We do have a policy that provides time and space for employees for breastfeeding."
- Dillard’s: Violations – Failure to provide adequate space and failure to provide reasonable time (Agreed to comply)
- Starbucks: Violation – Failure to provide adequate space (Agreed to comply)
- McDonald’s franchise based in Murrieta, Calif.: Violation – Failure to provide reasonable time (Agreed to comply)
The Department of Labor would not provide a time frame on when the final rules would be introduced. But there’s a fact sheet on the law here (http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs73.htm). Also, employees who believe their employer has violated the law can contact the division’s toll-free helpline at 1-866-487-9243.
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I have no qualms about breast feeding, as a matter of fact,
I wish that I would have had the opportunity to breast feed my daughter, unfortunately
she wouldn’t take it and my breasts didn’t produce enough milk so I couldn’t pump,
however my question is this: What is a new born - 6 mo. old doing at work in
the first place. I mean, most jobs do not provide for onsite day care, so why
the specific "Protection at work"? It just confuses me. Also, when is
enough enough? I have seen some mothers breast feed their 4 year old. Do the
co-workers have to be subjected to that grotesque practice? If you must feed
your "Baby" NOT toddler at work, then practice courtesy and respect
for your co-workers. Do it in privacy or cover up!
The law does not demand that infants/children be permitted in the workplace, just that women who are lactating have a reasonable place to express milk.
mimi.............no offense, but you sound terribly naive and immature
I could care less if some woman wants to pop a boob out to to breastfeed. Just don't cop an attitude when people start looking at you.
Since it is not practical to bring a baby to work, who is getting to feed on these breasts?
These particular moms could probably care less about their children. Their primary concern is to make a scene, cause drama and bring attention to themselves while inflicting as much misery as possible on the rest of mankind.
You hit it tight on the head of the nail "paidmyfee" by saying that they want to bring attention to themselves. Frankly I think they are discusting individuals that have no pride or scruples. Breast feed your baby? go ahead, but my family and/or I and others that don't want to havve to be around "forced" into watching some brat suck on a druppy stretched out tit shouldn't have to, go into the privacy of your home, car, or somewhere else. Wait for a few more years and some nut hugging jackass will get a federal court rule forcing people to watch him/her take a piss or crap. These judges that have no idea what is going on in the real world, they are sheltered in their plush and wealthy protected worlds. What a joke.
"....."forced" into watching some brat suck on a druppy stretched out tit shouldn't have to, go into the privacy of your home, car, or somewhere else"
You mean like a breastfeeding room like the article was talking about?
You are the worst!
Yeah, paidmyfee, you hit the nail on the head. These women went out and spent over a hundred dollars on a breast pump, then used it to feed their unwanted, uncared-for babies.... you're so smart... cat's out of the bag.
This is how I think this is going to play out. I am a mom of two who breastfed discreetly. I did temp work at the time and no one even knew I was nursing a baby. I think this scenario is going to backfire and employers will start hiring older people or men instead of young mothers. I worked at a law firm in Tampa where one of the young women attorneys was pumping milk in her office all day long with a do not disturb sign on the door. I couldn't get her to sign documents I needed to go out. Employers really don't want to be bothered with this and will find a way to circumvent it probably by not hiring young mothers.
Although I would agree, currently women outnumber men 2:1 in colleges and other avenues of higher education. There will be a shift in skill demographics of the workforce towards women, if they want the education and skills they'll make accommodations. If not, they will fold under the weight of incompetence.
Breast-feeding or just pumping?
The article is a little ambigous. What a shock ...
Nobody would object to pumping.
The issue with breast-feeding is why is the kid at work instead of at home. Come on.
The issue is that is is now mandatory that employers must pay for breaks in order for mothers to pump or feed.
They don't have to pay you - they could have you make up the time. They just have to let you do it.
Those who choose to bottle feed, either formula or pumped breast milk, must be allowed to have their children with them at work so they might also be fed. Feeding ones baby is as much about the holding close and coddling of the baby as it is about the actual feeding.
Very astute Maureen. Holding and coddling is shown to be necessary.
What is also good is if the mom is giving her attention to the infant, and not the job.
YOU CANNOT CONCENTRATE ON YOUR WORK 100% IF YOUR INFANT IS THERE.
So the kid loses out. And the boss loses out, because he is not getting a full days work from the mom.
Better for the mom to just stay home with the kid.
We are going to force you to have it but restrict you from feeding it. Just more GOPTard nonsense.
Obama 2012.
Nobody forced the mom to have the kid.
It would be nice if she was intelligent enough to plan ahead and understand she would need to take time off from work to raise the kid.
I seriously hope that companies are not forced to pay for the time the women are breastfeeding....
Think of it as a temporary raise for a good employee.
Good employees work for their pay. Nobody deserves to be paid while sitting doing nothing productive for the company. Follow the letter of the law....I have no problem with breastfeeding at work, just not on the clock.
I might take heat for this Dennis, but if I was still nursing my baby and I couldn't get my pumping done in the allotted breaks and lunch break, I would have no problem doing so off the clock. It is temporary. Every baby is so different, even my two had very different appetites. One I would have been able to accomplish it, the other, definitely not. People who lump every baby into a one-size-fits-all just doesn't get how different each baby is.
This way, no one is getting any extra time, just a clean, dedicated room to pump. THIS IS AS LONG AS THE WOMAN WHO USES THE TIME OFF THE CLOCK ISN'T PENALIZED FOR IT. You can't have it both ways.
Some women do work while pumping. It is possible in some jobs to respond to email, do paperwork, etc. while pumping.
You're assuming that by allowing breaks (that most people get anyway) that a pumping mom is going to "do nothing" or "take extra time". Give some of us honest, hardworking moms some credit here.
Whats wrong with looking at breasts in public? Some people pay for that privilege. Now we get it for free.
These liberal-socialists claim that breast feeding is a natural function and therefore must be protected by federal law that allows it to be performed in public.
So. . . . . therefore having sex is a natural function, BUT try doing it in a Target store and see how quickly you are hustled down to the closest police station and get charged for "public indecency" or "perverted acts"!!!!!!!
You are sick.
Breastfeeding is not an illegal act of public indecency.
Feeding a child is not the same as choosing when to have sex. Eating is necessary to survive - especially for a person so young they can't feed themselves.
That is a lame argument at best, boboj.
Here, I'll give you another thought.
Giving birth is a natural thing too. What if a woman went into labor while in housewares at Target. What if that baby is coming right now, and there is no time to wait. She lays on the floor and begins to give birth.
Maybe they should arrest her too! After all, she would be exposing herself to them around her as her child exited the womb.
Damn! You people need to lighten up. Get your heads out of the gutter.
I can't believe these comments. I know, I should know better by now, but seriously what is wrong with people. I have a toddler who I am breastfeeding, but since she is 20 months old I don't have to pump anymore. However when you have an infant and you spend ten hours a day away from them, you have to pump milk (or bring in your baby) to keep up an adequate supply. You also have to pump so that you can bank enough milk to send with your baby to daycare the next day so that they have something to drink. Babies younger than six months should not have anything but breastmilk, so it's kind of a necessity. You can't just slap together a pbj and send them off - and it isn't easy to produce adequate quantities of milk when you are away from your baby all day - it takes a lot of effort and discipline. I had to get up every morning at 4am to pump, then 6am to feed, then feed at the daycare drop off, then pump 3-4 times during the work day, then feed the baby all evening and then pump once again around 11pm before bed. You also have to wake up during the night to feed, because breastfed babies generally need to nurse during the night to get adequate nutrition. Beyond that, anyone who has ever breastfed or who has half a brain knows that a woman needs to breastfeed or pump milk every couple of hours, or they develop painful blockages and infections. People act as if its an "entitlement" or a walk in the park. It's obvious they know nothing, I can say from experience that it is a major p.i.t.a. and a great relief when your child is taking enough solids that it is ok to reduce or eliminate the pumping (usually around a year old for most babies).
Employers can't have it both ways - either they need to provide a safe, clean place for women to pump, time to pump on regular basis and a cold place to store expressed milk or they need to cough up and provide 1-2 years paid maternity leave while a woman breastfeeds her baby. These people act as if employers are gods. It's ridiculous that the government has to legislate this because companies have become so greedy and irresponsible they can't just do what is right. It's even worse that the same people who are treated like disposable commodities have been tricked into defending the very practices that exploit them. Shaking my head...
Stay home with the kid is really better for the kid. Simple concept. If you cannot afford to do that, do not have the kid.
Maternity leave is a separate issue.
Oh yes, Koza, you have it all figured out. Everything is so simple, so black and white. If people on this site who think they know everything actually had to abide by their own ridiculous suggestions, they would have a lot less time to sit around and make uninformed comments.
Maternity leave is not a separate issue. How we value children (not to mention workers) as a society is the issue, and nursing rights, maternity leave and living wage are all a part of that consideration. In some cases I agree that staying home is better for baby and mama (it is certainly easier) but we part ways when you start suggesting that only wealthy people should have the privilege of being able to have and raise children. It isn't money that makes for happy healthy children, it's love along with a healthy helping of sacrifice, discipline and good decision making. Money comes and goes, family is forever.
It is simple. And I abide by my suggestions.
Uniformed? Really?
You are the one who does not understand economics. I infer that by your use of the term 'living wage'.
Why would anybody be content with just a 'living wage'. There is no limit on earnings....unless you have given up and asked the state to take over and care for you, you should be seeking more than that. That is not a social issue, that is a YOU issue. Nobody will improve your job skills and prepare you for a higher paying job..Only you can do that.
The way they act you would think every woman working is breast feeding her child at work, at the same time, and they are loosing billions of dollars because of it.
Get real people. In the end it would be much more harmful to our civilization to deny our children the breast, than the effects of allowing the breast feeding mothers to fulfill their purpose. In fact, if people would get over their childish revulsion, our civilization would be much stronger.
Actually Koza, I have an MBA and I've taken many graduate level economics courses so I know a little about economics. People are content with a "living wage" because making money is not the purpose of existence. Speaking only for myself, my goal is to make enough to live comfortably, be able to travel, have disposable income and to provide for my family. Beyond that, I'm not interested. Not all people value the continual collection of profit over all else. Many of us just want to work enough to provide for our families, and then go home and invest our talent, energy and passion into other endeavors such as engaging our families, serving our communities or creating works of art and beauty. That the purpose of existence is to accumulate wealth is an assumption, and in my opinion it is a false one. This is certainly a social issue, our society values the accumulation of wealth over the well-being of people and families.
Oh I see. We have to be penalized for your lack of ambition. Ambition is a moral imperative.
You claim an MBA and you still do not understand economics. No surprise. The purpose of existance is a philosophical question. But I would accept it is to help others. When you provide a service that helps somebody and sell it at a profit, both parties profit. That is win win. And the more people you help, the greater your profits. Provide enough service, and you can become rich. That is capitalism
....So sorry about your MBA. You evidently wasted your money on it.
Sigh...so when you can't make an intelligent argument you resort to insults. So typical.
Providing a clean place for a woman to express breast milk for her child does not penalize you. (or "we" as you put it). Breastfed infants get sick less often and require less medical care, which benefits society as a whole.
I know what capitalism is. I just happen to think it is failing too many of us to be considered successful. I see you are a supporter of the status quo. Fine, we will have to agree to disagree on this one Koza. You think it is a "moral imperative" to become wealthy, and I think we are not put on this Earth to chase profit (and that society would be better off if we had more time to dedicate our ambition and energy to family, community and solving global problems rather than building profit for shareholders). You are a supporter of capitalism, and I am not. Let's just leave it at that, any further "discussion" is just going to waste time.
Sigh. You cannot read...and you want to remark on the intelligence of the comment? LOL.
I said amibition is a moral imperative, not becoming wealthy.
Shareholders? Again. You cannot read. Nobody said a company is required to go public.
Regardless, the fundamental issue is why is the mom not a home raising her child instead of working.
Because after WWII ended, and our warriors came back home. Women had been a major addition to factory labor, in order to have a large enough workforce to support the war effort. Before then, one man could earn a wage that provided for the entire family. With the high increase in available labor caused by massive influx of women entering the war time industry, coupled with the return of our military forces, wages lowered.
So the workforce was doubled while the cost of that increased workforce was lowered. Thus now it takes two people to provide for the family, instead of the pre-war one person.
Just a little theory from a person who doesn't have an MBA, but I do have an RSVP. See you at the party.
"Thus now it takes two people to provide for the family, instead of the pre-war one person."
Not at all. You just have to improve your job skills so you can get a higher paying job.
Society can not be composed of only people with higher paying jobs. It takes all kinds jobs, low paying and high paying, to fill all the types of employment available. So just saying "improve your job skills", is no real solution.
JamesP -- Improve your job skills is the only solution -- unless you want to work two jobs, which I and others have done. And once you have leaned how to do that, learn how to invest. To live in a great country, and not understand how it works, is kind of a waste.
It sure is comforting to know there are people out there, like you, who have all the answers.
I'll get right on understanding how America works, and also learn the mysteries of this wonder called invest.
Thanks Koza.
By the way, could you advise me? I needed someone to do some yard work, but I couldn't find anyone to do it out of all the highly skilled, high payed people out there. What shall I do?
Tundraleigh, some people just aren't worth arguing with, as is the case with this Koza person.
Simple minds think everything is black and white. This is obviously someone who does not have children, or is bankrupt emotionally that no one will date this person, much less procreate. Again, had your Mother not put up with you Koza, where would you be? Don't forget that these very beings that you show so little respect for are the same ones who will hold office some day, create laws, and well, will provide the nursing home your old body will decay and die in one day.
You should be nicer to these little beings, one day they will rule you.
James P --
How sad. You live in America, yet do not understand it. You need someone to do the yard work? I have done yard work, and lots of it, for pay. But I did not stay there. I practiced what I am saying. Went to University and got a well paying job. However, I know people who have parlayed their landscape business into a lucrative business.
People do not start in the high paying jobs, and while they are working their way up, they will indeed fill the lower paying jobs.
Anything other questions?
Lemonverbeena -- LOL. Reading problems? I already stated I have children.
I reckon I do have another question.
Do you understand satire?
Here's is another question.
Do you always assume to know the minds of people you have never met?
as with any normal body function breastfeeding should be completed within the norm of decorum. just as i don't want to watch someone eliminating wastes from their body (including a big fat butt), i do not want to watch a mother breastfeed their child (regardless of age), this should be a bonding time for those two alone.
The issue of breast feeding is an issue that shouldn't even be an issue.
It is all the people who have a problem with seeing a woman breast feed her child are the ones with issues. They take something that is as natural as breathing and with their twisted, dirty minds turn it into an offence.
I mean really, what the fudge are these degenerate, anti-breast feeding, morons thinking when they see this natural act? What kind of thoughts are in their minds? I'll tell you what kind of thoughts. Dirty thoughts.
It isn't the mom feeding her child who are the problem. It is the thoughts of childish, dirty minded people that are the problem.
GET OVER IT AND GROW UP YOU DIRTY MINDED, ANTI-BREAST FEEDING, CONTROL FREAKS.
James, these are the same people who lust after people like Kim Kardashian who display their breasts to the edge of the areola daily. Now, is it women in general they have a problem breastfeeding, or would it be perfectly ok for someone like KK to do it in public? They are the kings and queens of the double standard.
Sorry, but I don't follow you. I don't know what you mean to ask.
KK is a woman so it would follow that it would be ok.
I do think we are on the same wavelength as to people's dirty minds. Some people act as if they had never seen a breast, and if they are a full grown man I feel sorry for them...........Or do I?
In one of the previous posts, someone tried to compare the natural act of breast feeding with sexual intercourse in public because sex is also natural. See where their minds gravitate?
They try to reign in their degenerate thoughts by limiting the freedoms of others.
LOL, sorry James... KK=Kim Kardashian. None of these naysayers would have one single problem if she was whipping it out in public and nursing her baby.
Holy cow... comparing breast feeding to sexual intercourse in public... yeah, unfortunately I see exactly where their minds gravitate. Thank you for being understanding and seeing that these new mothers only want a clean, private place to provide nutrition for their babies. I'm sure you've seen some women be less than modest, so have I. I am much more modest, but when I have seen it, I never looked at a mother with disgust. In fact, I never gave it a second thought. Thank goodness there are still men like you out there!
First, unless the company provides daycare facilities at its workplace (some larger corporations do), then the baby is not going to be at work to begin with. Next, seriously, do you really believe that somebody would bring a child every couple hours by a mothers workplace just for the express purpose of the mother breastfeeding her baby? Somebody mentioned that on a way earlier post. Now that we've gotten that foolishness out of the way concerning those two things lets get on to the next idiocy. If a woman needs to express milk then fine, have a small area corded off (move-able walls) and set up a time clock beside it and have her clock out and then back in when she goes back to work. This also applies if the company has a day care facility. You're given two breaks and a lunch so if you need more time between these times, then it comes out of your paycheck. That solves the problem that the mothers are getting paid for doing this. It's well within a corporations rights to not pay you beyond the given breaks already in place. Next the stupidity where shopping is concerned. Lets say you CHOOSE to go shopping with your baby at Target, then it's not Targets responsibility to provide a place for you to breastfeed. You're putting an undue burden on Target for your decision. Lastly, common sense and morality. Yes breastfeeding is natural but any woman that would expose herself to doing this in public tells you something about the nature of the woman. A decent woman would want to get out of the line of site if you know what I mean. At least the girls that I grew up around would not do so because they were brought up with a little modesty and decency. I know that is foreign to most people in today's times but has the whole world gotten stupid where common decency is concerned. A time and a PLACE for everything! If you have to be told this then nothing that I've said above will make any sense to you.
It's "need to" Eve not "want to". But many commenters - what an immature crowd. Still learning what it is to be human.
Well, if you want to expose those babies to flu and colds and TB go right ahead. If you are feeding in public, you probably aren't getting the kids vaccinated anyway. Obama care has that taken care of too.
You aren't suggesting these women keep their babies in a bubble are you? I mean, what kind of immune system would they build that way? Personally, I kept my babies home for months without going into public, until the VACCINATIONS I got took effect, but that was MY choice. I don't stand in the way of what any new mother needs or wants to do, it's called FREEDOM. Do you suggest a police state for these women? Loss of rights?
I nursed all 4 of my children and was fortunate enough to be able to be home with them while they were nursing. Breast feeding is best for babies - no doubt about it.
Having said that, there is a difference between having the right to breast feed and becoming one of the breastfeeding nazi's who think they can whip it out anywhere at any time. The workplace should be able to provide a place for a woman to pump on her break. My problem is with these crazy moms who think it's OK to expose themselves in public any time to nurse. There is such a thing as a blanket and being modest. There were times when I was in public at the mall or at a fast food place with my family and my baby wanted to nurse NOW. I always carried a receiving blanket with me, and I always covered myself and my baby.
A woman should be able to breast feed her kids when they are hungry, but do so in a modest manner for the sake of others. We need to realize as a society that it's NOT "all about me".
Today's women want to run naked anyway just like Snooki and the Kardashian sisters.
I don't care about public breast feeding, but why are you bringing your babies into the office? Babies are little petri dishes that carry an astounding number of highly contagious diseases. Keep them at home until they're old enough to wash themselves!
Little petri dishes? Really? I didn't know being around a baby could be so dangerous. Thinks for the heads up on that.
Wow! What really blows me away is, how in the world did I, or anyone else for that matter, survive into adulthood with all them babies highly contagious diseases all around me.
I have read alot of comments in here that are disgusting. Look, bottom line is this. We force moms to have to work in order to make ends meet. I don't see what is so wrong with allowing them a few mins to pump or nurse. Ultimately it lasts a few months whereas a smokers additictions and smoke breaks can last a lifetime. Not to mention most get a lunchbreak and 2 breaks a day (if they take them like they are required), so most of it could be handled during that time. The biggest issue I see, and the reason for this law is that though they are required to provide these breaks, they are not required to provide a clean and private area for such activity to take place. This law will change that. So those complaining about the time, the time isn't the issue. It's the location. I've nursed 3 children... early on they nurse every 2 hours... even with that, it would just about fall in line with each break already allowed. By the time most of them are 6 months, they are nursing less often, and many stop by about 1 year. If you can't work with this then maybe you should move to another country... oh wait. That's right, most other countries facilitate mothers way more than the US. Never mind. Maybe you should find an island....
"We force moms to work.."
Wrong.
Those of you posting that there should. It be a law about this are correct. There should. OT have to be a law covering common sense and a little humanity.
Those of you posting that you don't think YOU should have to 'cover' for these moms in order for them to have time and a place to breastfeed. I mean, heaven help us if we're asked to do a little bit extra to aid another person.
Well, all I can say is that, as a mother and a grandmother, I would be ashamed if I had raised my son to be as selfish and self-centered as you are. Your 'me first and only' attitude is exactly what is wrong with this country.
Wow, I proofread my post andit still posted badly.
I said that those of you who say there should not be a law for this are correct. There should not be a law. Humanity and common sense should prevail. Unfortunately, it seems that too many people are just too selfish and self-centered to enable this without a law.
dsb -- On the contrary. It is the mother who is being selfish for wanting to work instead of staying home and raising her kid properly.
I would be ashamed to if I was advocating slackness at a workplace. There are already break times. What next? Women get to stay home just to breastfeed while getting their full pay? How about the company hiring someone to do all the work and the women can sit in a cozy lounge for the day while getting paid? I will never pay my employees to do anything but work. The law does not specifically state I have to pay for that time, so I won't. Just like smokers will never be paid for their smoke breaks.
Don't get me wrong, I will have a nice place to breastfeed, and the time to do it. But, I will make sure that they are off the clock. They will also sign a document that states they take all responsibility of the child while there in case of any accidents.
what next???Workman's comp for mothers breastfeeding at work and the child injures the mothers nipple?
Thats the problem with this country, give someone an inch, they take a mile.
Oh my goodness people you can not read??? It is not about taking kids to work with you or public breastfeeding..it is about HAVING A SPACE (considered a private not public) to PUMP BREASTMILK (no child required during pumping).
Today's society should definitely learn to be more tolerant to EACH OTHER. Readings some comments make me sad or sick. I am from Canada and here we do have SOME nursing stations as you probably have too in Babies are us or Sears etc. We also have our maternity leave for a year instead of 6 months like you guys so it is a little easier for breastfeeding moms such as myself. Of course I would love to breastfeed (pump) till my son was 2 however in my career it was not possible plus I am a little modest and pumping in a washroom or cubicle is just not for me.
Anyway please do not make nursing moms guilty for wanting the best for their babies. Yes they did choose to have kids but trust me if they could they would also choose to stay home with them instead of going back to work but it is not possible most of the time. And honestly do not tell me you do not take break outside of your breaks if it is even to go to the washroom or chat for a bit with someone...do not even talk about all those smokers. Not everyone is scheming the system they also work longer hours to make up for it or when needed work the extra Saturday or Sunday and if they are not have a chat with them and see maybe just maybe things will change. Just do not be so selfish and intolerant...please everyone has a hard time to live not just you!
Then the title should say "pumping" instead of "breast-feeding"...
KOZA KOZA KOZA are you really that hard headed as the goat you represent? I bet you are immigrant from eastern Europe who is so ambitious to have a better life then the one left behind that it is all about money for you. Do you have any children? I would say no (of course I may be wrong) Well if you don't let me tell you one day if you do choose to have one or two or more everything will change for you most of all your priorities!
This is the paragraph that I read. Don't know about you.
The Affordable Care Act, which was signed into law in March 2010, amended the Fair Labor Standards Act, and for the first time employers are now federally mandated to provide women with breaks and a place to breastfeed. The final rules regarding the law have not been finalized, but that hasn’t stopped the Department of Labor’s Wage and Hour division’s enforcers from going after employers who don’t make accommodations for working moms who want to pump.
What I read is that the low mandates an employer to provide women a place to breastfeed. Since the law has not been finalized yet the Department of Labor's wage and hour division is going after employers who don't make accommodations for working moms who want to pump.
What I get from this is after the law is finalized employers will have to provide a woman a place to breastfeed.
ohplease --
Of course I have children. And I am able to provide for my family on one income. If I can do it, anybody can do it.
My children are number one...that is why it is so important for ME to make enough money for them and my wife can be a mom. It is best for the kid, best for the mom. Life is good when you have money.
So sorry people don't plan for their future and they want to have children when they cannot afford them.
Any chance they can extend this to adults? I LOVE titties (breasts). I'd love to suckle a couple times a day (caution, may lead to more adult related activity). But, on a more serious note...glad to see things are beginning to happen. It's a well documented benefit for both mother and child from a health and more important a bonding perspective. "On the clock"? No! That should not be considered a company paid benefit (unless sick leave or vacation is used)...no matter how you suck it! If it is...I demand my fair share of paid time on the tit (I'll call my girlfriend in).
As far as I'm concerned women are more than welcome to let their breasts hang out, feed their babies- as long as I get to watch!
Women have the unique biological means in which to provide for our next generation. Comparing women to men in this scope is outrageous, both have drastically different roles. A women's body can provide 100% for the child from conception till way beyond birth, the same cannot be said for the man's. Studies also show that breastfeeding is much healthier than any alternative. This special role requires special accommodations which are finally starting to be recognized.
Like it or not, two income households are the norm, and many households cannot survive with only one. So either UP everyone's pay(including women without children), so mothers CAN take the two years off work to raise the child as her unique responsibility, AND provide accommodations. (Because if the mother wants to work, that is also her right!) Places of public accomidation should be required to provide for the public, without discrimination, period.
Do you complain that handicapped people work with you? They take longer to do things and need 'special' accomidations because of their unique biological circumstances. Somehow it is ok to attack women for their unique biological needs.
This is reality, there is no 'going back', the world is evolving, you can evolve with it, or just be mad all the time. (psst, no one really cares if your mad, you're only hurting yourself and that's how it should be) The past was aweful for so many, let's not repeat it.
Two income houses the norm?
That is a statement about the household and nothing else. If you want to make a mediocre wage because you don't have good job skills, that is your choice. If you want have to have two cars, big house, big screen tv, and all the goodies, that is your choice.
So lets be clear. The mom can and should stay at home and raise the kid. It is better for the kid.
There is no going back? Wow. I guess you never make mistakes. Amazing. You should always have the flexibility to modify your approach, including 'going back'.
Do you beat your chest and walk slumped over too? I feel sorry for your wife.
I bet I could guess what part of the world you're from.
That is one of the most ignorant, rude statements I've ever read! There will always be some people who get ahead and there will always be some people who don't. There are people who used to have good paying jobs, but now work for much less money. There are people who suddenly find themselves with huge unexpected medical bills. Things happen. Circumstances change.
I agree. It would be lovely if all moms could stay at home and raise their children. But exactly what century and what planet are you living on?
This page isn't about your standards. Stay on topic.
Karlie12 -- My statement was factual. If it is a rude awakening to you, that is a statement about you only. The market place is neutral. If you bring to the market place a good product, the market place will reward you accordingly. If you don't, it won't. But it does not care if you upgrade your skills. Only you can do that.
Oh I see, people who had to take less during the downturn now have to take less forever? Is that what you think? Really? That is called learned helplessness. Are you really so helpless? No. Study the market. Determine where the demand is, and market yourself there.
I live on the same planet as you, and in the same century -- sorry for your poor choices. Personal responsibility is a bitch.
The page also is not about your uninformed view.
Hey Kosa! Do you always give advise followed by insult?
I would guess you know the meaning of the word tact. After all you are so educated and smart, we all pale in comparison. Maybe you just forgot to use tact. I guess it happens to the best of us. It happened to you.
Oh I see. People want to impose their poor choices on the rest of us, yet when they are offered advice on how to fix those poor choices, it is bad. Way to shift the blame. How will these mom's teach personal responsibility to their children if they cannot muster it themselves. Oh wait.
Reading comprehension is important.
I have no problem with people giving advise. I only have a problem with people who follow it with insult, or condescension.
Reading comprehension is important indeed.
But what you comprehend as insult was not. You might work on that.
I'll work on that if you work on tact. Deal?
No. If you are wrong, I will tell you in no uncertain terms.
Just because you say someone is wrong, don't make them wrong. Have you ever thought it may be you who is wrong? Have you ever thought of that? If you have never thought that you may be wrong, you have a problem.
Oh, by the way. Your avatar fits your personalty well.
JamesP -- Sure. I looked at your position. Then I looked at my position. Then the assumptions on which both are predicated...and guess what, you are still wrong. Not my problem.
I know that you are the proof and no other is required, so I will accept your judgement.
Happy now?
James, Koza doesn't hold a candle to you. People who have to shove their "help" down others' throats are the ones with the deep seeded issues. Take Koza here, who feels that keeping women back in the 1950's is the only way for everyone since he beat his chest and insisted the mother of his children do it. Koza say.... UG.
Lemonverbeena - As I have read your posts, that you agree with James I take as vindication of my views. You are your own worse enemy. LOL
Listen to the goat. The goat knows all.
You are learning. Go to the front of the class and take a bow.
Ok! While I am on my way, I'll get you another bail of hay.